Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Ray Mitcham]

It's way too late for that.  LOL.  If Hiden wins a fair election, I wish him all the best.  Any American citizen should at least hope that whomever becomes the President does a great job because we all benefit.  I would never hope that Hiden fails simply because I have a different political philosophy. I thought Obama was a decent and intelligent person.  Just someone who couldn't get much done and what little he did get done, I disagreed with.

He couldn't get much done as he was up against Congress and the Senate. Wait until November when the Dems have a triumvirate.

  But I never hated him or filled my days ranting that he was the devil like some type of mental case because he had different views.  The Trump haters, however, have a kamikaze mentality.  Their sole objective is his destruction.

You just don't understand how would be dictators work. Fortunately this one is a complete idiot, and will end up in jail.

They hope everything goes to hell because it lends support to their hate filled beliefs.  If people die because of the virus, all the better in their opinion.  They can blame Trump.  If they insist the economy be shutdown for months, and then Trump does that, then blame Trump for the unemployment and economic harm.  btw: how many dems are calling for a shutdown now if it was so effective?  The virus is still around.  How about no one.  It was a failure that actually caused more harm than good and no one would repeat that strategy.  Even the dems realize that was a disaster.

And you call Trump's actions a success? You just confirm your imbecility.

[Martin Weidmann]

Huh?  I knew you were a kook but this one is gold:  "When something is allowed by law, there are no changes."  HA HA HA.  So when the law is changed, there is no change because it is allowed by the law!  Wow.  No wonder you are a CTer.  That is the most tortured logic that I can ever recall this side of 1984.  And no one said that only Dems were changing the rules you dishonest fool.  The point is that in the weeks leading up to the election that the rules are being changed in a way that will affect millions of votes.  There is no universal standard for these changes. Every state that has changed the rules - repub or dem - will interpret and apply different standards potentially resulting in chaos.  And what is the definition of a repub or dem state in this context? For example, there are some states with repub governors, dem majority legislators, and biased one way or the other judicial branches.  And there is no need to create this uncertainty.  If Old Joe is so far ahead in the polls and certain of winning, then why create a situation in which the validity of the election will be disputed by this chaos?  Who will count these millions of mail in ballots?  How long will it take to count, recount, and challenge all these ballots?   Look what happened in Iowa.  Total chaos.  All of which is unnecessary.  Whoever wins - whether Old Joe or Trump - will be under a cloud due to this stupidity.

Huh?  I knew you were a kook but this one is gold:  "When something is allowed by law, there are no changes."  HA HA HA.  So when the law is changed, there is no change because it is allowed by the law!  Wow.

Yeah, I thought it would be over your head, and you have just proven me right. I have always known you are an idiot, but I never thought you were this stupid. The "changes" you mentioned in the list you posted were no changes at all. It is what the States were/are doing within the framework of the law to ensure as many people who want to vote can actually vote. However, now that you have once again instisted that laws have been changed it should be easy for you to tell us which States have actually changed the law and when! But you can't, simply because it didn't happen.
 
And no one said that only Dems were changing the rules you dishonest fool.  The point is that in the weeks leading up to the election that the rules are being changed in a way that will affect millions of votes. 

Do you have any idea what it is you're talking about? One moment you claim laws have been changed (but you can't give one example) and the next you ramble on about rules that were changed. Laws and rules are two very different things. To change a law you need a majority vote of a legislative body. To apply a rule that's already permitted by law, you don't. And applying an existing rule is not the same as changing it.

So I ask again; what laws have been changed in the weeks leading up to the election? Be specific!

And there is no need to create this uncertainty.  If Old Joe is so far ahead in the polls and certain of winning, then why create a situation in which the validity of the election will be disputed by this chaos? 

Who is creating this situation? So, let's see Republican and Democrat controlled States are allowing mail in voting and have no problem with it. The Democrat party and Joe Biden have no problem with it. So that leaves only Donald Trump and his ilk, who are complaining.

But it was Donald Trump himself who attacked the Postoffice, by having one of his buddies taking sorting machines out of the system, changing delivery rules and removing postboxes. The hypocrite who is complaining about mail in voting, is himself voting by mail. Says it all, really!

Who will count these millions of mail in ballots?  How long will it take to count, recount, and challenge all these ballots?

What does it matter how long it takes to count those votes, as long as every American with a right to vote can vote and gets his vote counted? You wouldn't be complaining about mail in voting because in your view that way too many people will be voting, would you now? 

All of which is unnecessary.  Whoever wins - whether Old Joe or Trump - will be under a cloud due to this stupidity.

Only when there is a close election. Not so much when there is a landslide...

You can be as sanctimonious as you like, by pretending to be concerned about the consequences for whoever wins the election, but if massive mail in voting is really such a worrisome issue, why is it that only Trump and his ilk are complaining about it?  If, as you say, the Democrats will be affected by it as well, why do they not worry?

[Rick Plant]

Tax Cheat, fraud, criminal, fake billionaire, Donald Trump

[Colin Crow]

Can you smell.....

[John Tonkovich]

The New York Times report on Trump's financial " issues" is quite informative.
He's personally responsible for $421 million in loans, one of which, for $100 million on Trump Tower, is interest only, and comes duein 2022 or 2023.
Basically, Trump is extremely " leveraged", and his golf courses/resorts have been - and continue to be - big money losers. As the article also mentioned, Trump has asked for loan payment postponements; if Trump is reelected, banks may be put in the awkward position of needing to sue a sitting president for loan repayment, judgements, and possibly foreclosure.
Also, Trump's tax write offs are questionable,  and possibly illegal, especially the $71 million he received in federal tax reimbursement, which is the subject of a long running dispute with the IRS.
 
Anyway, please read the article.

[John Tonkovich]

As a quick comparison, my city to Travis county Texas as they have almost equivalent populations.

Travis county total cases 29073, ours 468. Travis county deaths 420, ours 4.

Our restrictions were not particularly severe. We had no mandatory mask wearing here and it was not prevalent. There were travel restrictions between states and some still exist. Victoria had an outbreak a few months ago and had increased restrictions including masks and curfew. Their total cases now down to less than 20 daily. Kids have generally been back at schools for months. Apart from travel restrictions and a bit of voluntary social distancing life pretty much normal for a few months here.

Thank you, Mr Crow.
Obviously, AU had certain advantages, being - basically- a large island, and a small population, in terms of density. Perhaps, with fewer points of entry?, it was easier to control any influx of infected individuals?However, the majority of the population does seem to be clustered in small areas with high density, so perhaps the density overall is unimportant?
Did the government do more effective testing, contact tracing than that of Travis County?
Were citizens more respectful and cooperative than those in the U?S?
Does a large percentage of the population believe that Covid 19 is a hoax?
Thank you.

[Richard Smith]

The New York Times report on Trump's financial " issues" is quite informative.
He's personally responsible for $421 million in loans, one of which, for $100 million on Trump Tower, is interest only, and comes duein 2022 or 2023.
Basically, Trump is extremely " leveraged", and his golf courses/resorts have been - and continue to be - big money losers. As the article also mentioned, Trump has asked for loan payment postponements; if Trump is reelected, banks may be put in the awkward position of needing to sue a sitting president for loan repayment, judgements, and possibly foreclosure.
Also, Trump's tax write offs are questionable,  and possibly illegal, especially the $71 million he received in federal tax reimbursement, which is the subject of a long running dispute with the IRS.
 
Anyway, please read the article.

No concern that someone's personal tax returns - protected under the law - were illegally provided to the NY Times and published just a day before the debate?  Wow.  Talk about a deep state.  Stealing someone's tax returns and publishing them for political purposes.  Talk about fascism and the rule of law!  Hopefully someone goes to jail.  And what do they tell us?  LOL.  That Trump has done nothing illegal as conspiracy theorists have implied for years.  And he used the tax laws (created by politicians like Old Joe) to his advantage as a means to limit his tax liability.  What a shock!  Good for him. He is no different in that regard than any other person in his income bracket.