Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1477 on: August 19, 2020, 08:22:15 PM »
I know, look at the 3 Top States

1. New York=   32,840 deaths
2. New Jersey=15,912 deaths
3. California=   11,243 deaths
                       59,995 deaths  In 3 States Governed by hysterical liberal Democrats who endorse hysterical liberal Democrat rioters who don't stand 6 ft apart = not good 

I hope your Nursing Home is in Antarctica

Any particular reason you left out Texas and Florida, Der Spinmeister?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1478 on: August 19, 2020, 08:30:22 PM »
Do you really think Trump was speaking literally?  It is called humor.  Such blind hatred.  But save that thought about the 25th Amendment.  It might be needed soon.  Old Joe will be gone in six weeks if elected.  He has an obvious cognitive issue relating to his age and health.

He has a stutter, which Benedict "can't walk down a ramp or hold a water glass" Donald is desperately trying to spin into a cognitive issue.

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  An elderly man who has had two brain operations and would be older on his first day in office than Ronald Reagan was on his last day!

How old is the guy whose little brother just passed away from undeclared causes (covid, anyone?)?  Older than Ronald Reagan was.  Oops!

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Reagan was hounded by the media for years about his age.  But not a peep about octogenarian Joe.

Are you Royell in drag?  He didn't know what octogenarian meant either.  But no matter -- if anything were to happen to Joe, Kamala would be more than capable, unlike Der Fuhrer and his brown-nosing sidekick.  And the bonus would be that all you MAGA sexist racists would have to deal with a black woman president.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1479 on: August 20, 2020, 12:27:52 AM »
Yes, I'm sure Old Joe's stutter is the reason he can't recognize his own wife or know what state he is in.  It has nothing to do with his advanced age and multiple brain operations.  Maybe the press could ask him about it if his handlers ever allowed questions.  That's comedy gold.  But keep dreaming.  I noticed there is no more pedantic comments about the stock market being only "near" a record?  Or endless, nutty charts from Tom tracking the market and blaming Trump for the end of western civilization.  Oh well.  Maybe an asteroid ends all life as we know it so that can be blamed on Trump.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1480 on: August 20, 2020, 12:35:01 AM »
Yes, I'm sure Old Joe's stutter is the reason he can't recognize his own wife or know what state he is in.

He recognizes his wife.  What a stupid claim to make.  How desperate do you have to be?

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I noticed there is no more pedantic comments about the stock market being only "near" a record?

You mean the way you falsely claimed that it was hitting records before it ever hit records?  Did Royell bequeath his crystal ball to you before he left?  Or did you just decide to act like your idol and make something up in hopes that it would come true?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1481 on: August 20, 2020, 12:40:15 AM »
Yes, I'm sure Old Joe's stutter is the reason he can't recognize his own wife or know what state he is in.  It has nothing to do with his advanced age and multiple brain operations.  Maybe the press could ask him about it if his handlers ever allowed questions.  That's comedy gold.  But keep dreaming.  I noticed there is no more pedantic comments about the stock market being only "near" a record?  Or endless, nutty charts from Tom tracking the market and blaming Trump for the end of western civilization.  Oh well.  Maybe an asteroid ends all life as we know it so that can be blamed on Trump.

Trump is the laughing stock of the entire world. More people hate him than like him. Unable to make any kind of deal with anybody or bring people together. Massive unemployment, 170.000 deaths from covid-19 and rising and riots in the streets under his watch (for which, just like for everything else, he accepts no responsibility).

In the first four years he hasn't done a damned thing except from writing useless executive orders and play golf. Recently, report 5 of the bipartizan Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed Trump's involvement with the Russians was/is much greater than Robert Mueller could ever have imagined. And then there is this;



And you want this clown to be President for four more years.... What the f**k is wrong with you?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1482 on: August 20, 2020, 12:50:07 AM »
NEWS FLASH
Purgatory, USA
End of Times, 2020
Faked, planted & altered
by Bill Chapman


NATIONWIDE SEANCE REVEALS 100% OF AMERICANS KILLED BY TRUMP ARE EMBARRASSED BY HIS MISHANDLING OF THE PANDEMIC CRISIS

In a bypartisan vote involving officials from both Heaven & Hell, COVID-19 was the key to confirming Trump as 'Fourth Horseman of the Apocalypse'.

Longtime resident in Hell, satanic nobody Lee Harvey Oswald added 'Trump was also our hands-down choice for Biggest Jackass in All Creation, replacing myself in that category. In compensation for my demotion, I agreed to continue to pretend to be innocent in exchange for keeping conspiracy buffs away from my gravesite'
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #1483 on: August 20, 2020, 01:38:43 AM »
The Twisted Reasoning Required to Defend Trump

Byron York

Prior to the Trump presidency, there were some conservative pundits and publications that mainstream media considered to be “serious” commentators on the right. Given that they were in the position of having to defend a Republican Party that evolved from being post-truth to post-policy, we can have a debate about how serious they actually were. But their job was to provide some intellectual gravitas to GOP positions.

Once Trump was elected, that group split, with some becoming Never Trumpers (Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, etc.) and some deciding to take up the mantle of defending the narcissist-in-chief. Among the latter group are people like Byron York at the Washington Examiner and Stephen Miller at the Spectator. I name those two in particular because they have recently written that concerns on the left about what this administration is doing to the Post Office basically amounts to a conspiracy theory.

The title of York’s piece says it all: “A reality-based look at Trump and the post office.” But Miller ups the ante with, “Going postal: the USPS conspiracy theory is the new Russiagate.” Especially during the week that the Senate Intelligence Committee released a bi-partisan report documenting the pattern of relationships between Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives, it might not be a good time for them to compare what’s going on at the Post Office with so-called “Russiagate.” But Miller isn’t the only one that went there. Here’s how York opens his piece.

Some of the accusations have grown so frantic that they resemble the frenzy of a couple of years ago over the allegation, from many of the same people, that Trump had conspired with Russia to fix the 2016 election.

The commonality between what these two authors have to say doesn’t end there. They both suggest that the Post Office was “going broke” and that the actions taken recently by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy are merely steps taken to “reform” the institution, given its financial problems. They claim that concerns expressed by Democrats about how those will affect the upcoming election are merely conspiracy theories cooked up by the same folks that they think manufactured the ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.

But to make that claim with a straight face, these authors have to contend with the president’s own words. As a reminder, while talking to Maria Bartiromo, Trump made it clear that he was blocking funding for the Post Office, which would stop them from being able to handle mail-in voting. He made similar claims on Fox and Friends. So if this is all just a conspiracy theory, it was cooked up by the president himself.

Miller’s attempt to address that boils down to his suggestion that Trump’s comments were simply a case of him “electioneering” to his Fox News base, adding that “concerns with a universal mail-in election are not unfounded.” In other words, he’s admitting that—to the extent that all of this is a conspiracy theory—Trump started it, and he was justified in doing so.

York takes the position that the president merely confused things.

[Trump] suggested that not agreeing to the $25 billion was a way to stop universal mail-in voting, which it is not. He hasn’t addressed the serious problems at the Postal Service which need attention and do not have anything to do with voting. In all, he left the issue more confused than it had been beforehand — and that was saying something.

It’s hard to wrap one’s head around that one. The president is refusing to agree to additional funding for the Post office and being clear that he is doing so in order to stop universal mail-in voting. But York claims that’s not the real reason. So should we simply dismiss what the president said about his own motives?

For those of us who actually reside in the reality-based world, it is important to keep in mind that what Republicans are doing to the Post office is a twofer: sabotage the USPS to go private, and slow ballots down as a bonus. As Eric Cortellessa documented for this magazine, the former has been going on for decades.

All of that explains why those conservative journalists, who chose to hang in there in an attempt to defend Trump, face the challenge of combining the skills they developed over the years to promote post-truth politics with a president who lives in a delusional world designed to promote his own self-interests—which means that he occasionally says the quiet parts out loud. When someone like Byron York goes on Fox News to furrow his brow and pretend to make an intellectual argument in support of all of that, the descriptor that comes to mind is “pretzel logic.”