Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #910 on: January 17, 2021, 10:33:50 PM »
It's human nature to dismiss one's own employees as being a murderer, especially since Truly apparently liked Oswald who had another kid on the way, was a good worker. and didn't bother anybody. Baker was a motorcycle cop, not a detective, who would be more likely detain anybody coming down the stairs immediately post shots.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #911 on: January 17, 2021, 11:17:13 PM »
It's human nature to dismiss one's own employees as being a murderer, especially since Truly apparently liked Oswald who had another kid on the way, was a good worker. and didn't bother anybody. Baker was a motorcycle cop, not a detective, who would be more likely detain anybody coming down the stairs immediately post shots.

Oswald? Who said anything about Mr Oswald?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #912 on: January 17, 2021, 11:31:07 PM »


CLAIM: Officer Baker, having seen an indeterminate movement behind the window of this closed door just one floor up the building, recalls it thus: "As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway."

SANE REACTION TO CLAIM:  :D

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #913 on: January 17, 2021, 11:34:27 PM »


CLAIM: Officer Baker, seeing an indeterminate movement behind the window of this closed door just one floor up in the building whose roof he urgently wants to get up to, thinks to himself: "This might be the shooter."

SANE REACTION TO CLAIM:  :D
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #914 on: January 18, 2021, 01:45:08 AM »


CLAIM: Officer Baker, seeing an indeterminate movement behind the window of this closed door just one floor up in the building whose roof he urgently wants to get up to, thinks to himself: "This might be the shooter."

SANE REACTION TO CLAIM:  :D

SANE REACTION TO CLAIM:  :D 

LOL!



And WHO would describe a man walking across a 4 foot wide vestibule as "walking away from the stairs??   Only a nut would describe the scene in that manner....   The major problem with that scenario is....If Lee had just entered the vestibule, the door wouldn't have had time to close....So Baker should have seen Lee through the open door.... Baker was a damned liar!


Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #915 on: January 18, 2021, 11:02:28 AM »


CLAIM: Officer Baker, seeing an indeterminate movement behind the window of this closed door just one floor up in the building whose roof he urgently wants to get up to, thinks to himself: "This might be the shooter."

SANE REACTION TO CLAIM:  :D

Poor old Alan.
Let's put you out of your misery.
The following is an excerpt from Roy Truly's affidavit given on the day after the assassination:

"The officer and I went through the
shipping dept to the freight elevator. We then
started up the stair way. We hit the
second floor landing, the officer stuck his head
into the lunch room area where there
are coke and candy machines. Lee
Oswald was in there. The officer had his
gun on Oswald. And asked me if he was an
employee. I answered yes. We then went
up the stairs to the 5th floor..."

In your "analysis" you like to forget Truly was also present don't you.
Oh dear...


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #916 on: January 18, 2021, 02:57:43 PM »
Poor old Alan.
Let's put you out of your misery.
The following is an excerpt from Roy Truly's affidavit given on the day after the assassination:

"The officer and I went through the
shipping dept to the freight elevator. We then
started up the stair way. We hit the
second floor landing, the officer stuck his head
into the lunch room area where there
are coke and candy machines. Lee
Oswald was in there. The officer had his
gun on Oswald. And asked me if he was an
employee. I answered yes. We then went
up the stairs to the 5th floor..."

In your "analysis" you like to forget Truly was also present don't you.
Oh dear...

The officer had his gun on Oswald. And asked me if he was an employee. I answered yes. We then went
up the stairs to the 5th floor..."

We then went up the stairs to the 5th floor..."

Notice that Truly said nothing about stopping on "either the third or fourth floor" , but he did say they continued their climb up the stairs to the FIFTH FLOOR.

I believe the fifth floor is the site where Baker spotted a man trying to avoid being seen who was walking away from the stairs, near the elevators in a dimly lit room.   

There is another part of the story that I've always had trouble accepting as true.    I doubt that Baker and Truly ran across the shipping room on the first floor and yelled for the elevator to be released.    Eddie Piper was right there on the first floor at the coffee pot, which was not far from the elevators and he said nothing in his affidavit about witnessing any such activity.   

In his Warren Commission cover up committe testimony he did say that he saw a similar event but he described Baker who was dressed in the uniform of a motorcycle officer with a large white helmet as " either a police officer or an FBI man" 

It's highly unlikely that Piper would describe a motor cycle cop as an FBI man......  I believe Piper was recalling the so called re-enactment when he thought that Baker might have been an FBI man.