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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1960 on: October 04, 2022, 03:13:22 PM »
Look at the glare coming off those lenses..............


Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1961 on: October 04, 2022, 09:32:26 PM »
If PM is a woman  5’2” and took off her glasses and she took longer than 15 minutes to drink a small mug of coffee (or small styrofoam cup) which she brought with her approx 12:15 when she was with Sarah Stanton, and she is NOT the small short woman at the east side of steps seen in the same frames at the same time that PM is in the west corner…

Then itgere a possibility PM could be Pauline Sanders who just forgot she she moved from where she stated she was which was the east side of the landing.

And of course she was wearing a dark  dress that day also…

With her hair in a different style than the photo of her..

Um … IDK :)

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1962 on: October 04, 2022, 09:45:25 PM »
If PM is a woman  5’2” and took off her glasses and she took longer than 15 minutes to drink a small mug of coffee (or small styrofoam cup)

Not 'and' but 'OR'! (I don't buy the cup/mug solution btw)

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which she brought with her approx 12:15 when she was with Sarah Stanton, and she is NOT the small short woman at the east side of steps seen in the same frames at the same time that PM is in the west corner…

This identification of Ms Sanders in Darnell is a complete nonsense:



Watch how 'she' flickers magically into being for just one frame!



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Then itgere a possibility PM could be Pauline Sanders who just forgot she she moved from where she stated she was which was the east side of the landing.

She never AFAIK stated that she was on the east side of the entranceway at the actual time of the shooting. She just puts herself there ~12:20pm. And no one AFAIK states that she was right beside them on the east side of the entranceway at the actual time of the shooting.

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And of course she was wearing a dark  dress that day also…

With her hair in a different style than the photo of her..

Neither of these things is particularly problematical--------------and they're certainly a lot less problematical than believing Mr Oswald was in women's clothing!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1963 on: October 09, 2022, 05:08:28 PM »
Of the  reasons suggested so far to negate that  PM is Oswald, the strongest one imo is the unresolved shadow anomaly on Lovelady in Weigman film frame coincident with ( if certified) the person with forearm raised holding bottle ( in the Cronkite version Altgens 6 photo) located exactly at that darken out area of Lovelady.

To explain this new speculative location for Oswald as the reason for the shadow anomaly of Lovelady is going to appear so incredulous that I’m almost afraid to attempt it. 😵‍💫


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1964 on: October 22, 2022, 05:44:20 PM »
Of the  reasons suggested so far to negate that  PM is Oswald, the strongest one imo is the unresolved shadow anomaly on Lovelady in Weigman film frame coincident with ( if certified) the person with forearm raised holding bottle ( in the Cronkite version Altgens 6 photo) located exactly at that darken out area of Lovelady.

To explain this new speculative location for Oswald as the reason for the shadow anomaly of Lovelady is going to appear so incredulous that I’m almost afraid to attempt it. 😵‍💫

Well, Mr Mason, let's start with what is demonstrably non-credible:

A man facing forward into full sunlight having a shadow running down one side of his body



From this we have to ask:

Would the reason for this monkeying with the image have been
a) trivial?
b) serious?

Assuming b), we next have to ask:

What serious reason would the 'investigators' possibly have had to hide something in that area?

Proof of the presence of the accused sixth-floor shooter seems to meet that criterion, no?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1965 on: October 24, 2022, 03:49:21 AM »
Since there is the LN criticism of the “out front” location for Oswald based on Oswald’s statement of “naturally if I work IN that building “ in response to the question : Were you in the building at the time “?

So I’m considering the idea that Oswald initially was in the front lobby looking thru  the glass partition   when Carolyn Arnold (looking back) saw him at approx 12:25, and that Oswald did not actually come out to stand on the steps until just a few seconds AFTER the shots were fired.

This might address the probability question of how Oswald could be next to and in FRONT of several persons yet he was apparently unnoticed or not remembered by such persons.

The psychological effect therefore might be the phenomenon of “missing the Gorilla in  the midst of the basketball players” because of shock effect of shots fired causing focus of mind to flight or fight response.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1966 on: October 24, 2022, 09:56:47 PM »
Since there is the LN criticism of the “out front” location for Oswald based on Oswald’s statement of “naturally if I work IN that building “ in response to the question : Were you in the building at the time “?

So I’m considering the idea that Oswald initially was in the front lobby looking thru  the glass partition   when Carolyn Arnold (looking back) saw him at approx 12:25, and that Oswald did not actually come out to stand on the steps until just a few seconds AFTER the shots were fired.

This might address the probability question of how Oswald could be next to and in FRONT of several persons yet he was apparently unnoticed or not remembered by such persons.

The psychological effect therefore might be the phenomenon of “missing the Gorilla in  the midst of the basketball players” because of shock effect of shots fired causing focus of mind to flight or fight response.

Mr Oswald behind the front door at the time of the actual shots is indeed possible, though "Then went outside to watch P. Parade" suggests that is not what he actually claimed in custody. It would also, of course, leave the impossible shadow down Mr Lovelady in Wiegman unexplained..........

I suspect that Ms Arnold did indeed spot Mr Oswald behind the glass front door shortly before the motorcade's arrival----------and that he was keeping an eye on things so he could nip outside at the last moment (he hated small talk and would have found standing around on the steps for several minutes with other employees uncongenial). If----------as I am doubly surmising----------he nipped outside at the last minute and then left the steps immediately after the shots rang out to follow Mr Shelley down on to the street, it's unsurprising that he would go generally unnoticed.

The enclosed, raised-steps entranceway was in the front part of the building. As such it was 'in the building', albeit not INSIDE it. (The Warren Gullibles always pretend the reporter asked 'Were you INSIDE the building at the time?') To leave the building fully, one had to descend the steps and hit the sidewalk.

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