Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1694 on: September 17, 2021, 04:17:21 AM »
Jerry, Baker trip over his words when he testified before the WC.....   In recalling the scene to his minds eye, and  describing the the location where he called to the man who was sneaking away from the stairs . He said that it was dark in there by the elevators.     Which I'm sure you know is a sharp contrast to the well lit second floor lunchroom where he encountered Lee Oswald.

This is a VERY astute observation, Mr Cakebread!  Thumb1:

Mr. Baker. I ran on up here and opened this door and when I got this door opened I could see him walking on down.
(...)
Mr. Belin. Did you notice what clothes the man was wearing as he came up to you?
Mr. Baker. At that particular time I was looking at his face, and it seemed to me like he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt. Anyway, as I noticed him walking away from me, it was kind of dim in there that particular day, and it was hanging out to his side.


"That particular day", lol

This most certainly does NOT describe the lunchroom:



However! Has Officer Baker just given us an important clue as to which floor he really encountered a light-brown-jacket-wearing man who was walking away from the stairway?-----------------------


Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1695 on: September 17, 2021, 02:52:05 PM »
Alan Ford is desperately trying to bring back the topic. Kudos.
There are presently 3 threads discussing Whaley and Oswald's Jacket [been discussed for two years now]
Let's end those here  :)
Right...it all came back to him.

Jerry, this guy succinctly sums up, the problem of Whaley. He created the findagrave.com,   Whaley memorial page....
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13730776/william-wayne-whaley
William Wayne Whaley
BIRTH   19 Jun 1905

Whaley's lies are etched in stone.



Whaley's hometown newspapers on Friday, June 26, 1908 :



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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1696 on: September 17, 2021, 05:23:20 PM »
Now!

Mr Roy Truly, as quoted in the New York Herald Tribune, 11/27/63, talking about Officer Baker:



Ain't it interesting that the SS's own belief that Mr Oswald was seen SITTING in the lunchroom-----------



-------------tallies so perfectly with what Mr Truly told the press at this time?

Friends, we are a long, long, long way away here from Officer Baker's 11/22/63 affidavit account:

"As we reached the 3rd or 4th floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man & he turned around & came back toward me."

A couple of weeks after the assassination,  Roy Truly was interviewed by a reporter from the magazine US News and the reporter quoted Truly as saying that Lee Oswald was sitting at a table in the second floor lunchroom, drinking a coke, when DPD officer Baker confronted him.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1697 on: September 17, 2021, 06:36:50 PM »
This is a VERY astute observation, Mr Cakebread!  Thumb1:

Mr. Baker. I ran on up here and opened this door and when I got this door opened I could see him walking on down.
(...)
Mr. Belin. Did you notice what clothes the man was wearing as he came up to you?
Mr. Baker. At that particular time I was looking at his face, and it seemed to me like he had a light brown jacket on and maybe some kind of white-looking shirt. Anyway, as I noticed him walking away from me, it was kind of dim in there that particular day, and it was hanging out to his side.


"That particular day", lol

This most certainly does NOT describe the lunchroom:



However! Has Officer Baker just given us an important clue as to which floor he really encountered a light-brown-jacket-wearing man who was walking away from the stairway?-----------------------





The fourth floor??

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1698 on: September 17, 2021, 06:40:48 PM »
Now!

Mr Roy Truly, as quoted in the New York Herald Tribune, 11/27/63, talking about Officer Baker:



Ain't it interesting that the SS's own belief that Mr Oswald was seen SITTING in the lunchroom-----------



-------------tallies so perfectly with what Mr Truly told the press at this time?

Friends, we are a long, long, long way away here from Officer Baker's 11/22/63 affidavit account:

"As we reached the 3rd or 4th floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man & he turned around & came back toward me."

Imagine the NYTs getting a detail wrong! LOL.  And they had a "snack bar" at the TSBD?  Was that next to the sauna?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1699 on: September 17, 2021, 06:42:17 PM »
A couple of weeks after the assassination,  Roy Truly was interviewed by a reporter from the magazine US News and the reporter quoted Truly as saying that Lee Oswald was sitting at a table in the second floor lunchroom, drinking a coke, when DPD officer Baker confronted him.
It would not matter if LHO was standing up, sitting down or standing on his head...the idea that he just decided to run down to the lunchroom and calmly get a nice refreshing soda after supposedly shooting at the president and hiding a rifle is just plain silly.
Now I understand that Gerald Ford performed the feat of starting at the 6th floor stairs and clomped down to the 2nd floor lunchroom in 40 seconds. ....so what?

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1700 on: September 17, 2021, 06:51:13 PM »
It would not matter if LHO was standing up, sitting down or standing on his head...the idea that he just decided to run down to the lunchroom and calmly get a nice refreshing soda after supposedly shooting at the president and hiding a rifle is just plain silly.
Now I understand that Gerald Ford performed the feat of starting at the 6th floor stairs and clomped down to the 2nd floor lunchroom in 40 seconds. ....so what?

The idea of the Boston bomber getting into a boat in someone's backyard is a silly idea.  Obviously, Oswald did not decide to run down to the lunchroom and buy a soda after shooting JFK.  He was heading down the stairs to escape, heard someone heading up the stairs, and he headed toward the lunchroom to avoid detection.  The soda is a prop just like the clipboard that he carrying around on the 6th floor to give him the appearance of having a reason to be there unless you think Old Lee was real thirsty and guzzled it because he is out the door of the building and on a bus down the street just minutes later with no soda.