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Author Topic: If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?  (Read 406420 times)

Offline Alan Ford

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Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; so I discarded it, or disconnected it with being with Oswald. Incidentally, Oswald's fingerprints were not on the bottle. I checked that.
Mr. McCLOY. They were not on the bottle?
Mr. DAY. No, sir.

Reminds one of something else found in the Depository that Lt. Day had to check for Mr Oswald's fingerprints!


Offline Alan Ford

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Friends, I still maintain that we ignore Mr Rowland's actual description of the 'elderly Negro' at our peril, not least this part------------

"Had on a plaid shirt. I think it was red and green, very bright color, that is why I remember it."

The evidence shows that the 'investigating' authorities saw the problem and tried hard to establish that he was either Mr Eddie Piper or Mr Troy West. Once it became clear that no Depository employee could be served up as an explanation for what Mr Rowland saw, they went on to Plan B: discredit Mr Rowland's character. This was the only recourse left to them if they wanted to neutralize a giveaway sighting of a non-employee on the sixth floor just 15 minutes before the assassination.

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Offline Colin Crow

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Friends, I still maintain that we ignore Mr Rowland's actual description of the 'elderly Negro' at our peril, not least this part------------

"Had on a plaid shirt. I think it was red and green, very bright color, that is why I remember it."

The evidence shows that the 'investigating' authorities saw the problem and tried hard to establish that he was either Mr Eddie Piper or Mr Troy West. Once it became clear that no Depository employee could be served up as an explanation for what Mr Rowland saw, they went on to Plan B: discredit Mr Rowland's character. This was the only recourse left to them if they wanted to neutralize a giveaway sighting of a non-employee on the sixth floor just 15 minutes before the assassination.

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Alan what colour would you describe Williams' shirt that day? If it was Piper (or anyone else) why would Williams agree to get him to change his story? Also Norman and Jarman seem to be left out until months later. Surely they are key to Williams' timing too.

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Reminds one of something else found in the Depository that Lt. Day had to check for Mr Oswald's fingerprints!



Large sections of this document have not been filled in. Reminds me of the large sections of the autopsy face sheet which have been left black too. This tells me this document is not an original but a cover for hiding something.

The package Oswald carried in to the TSBD was only 27 inches long. It can't be ruled out that Oswald being set up that day and was told to bring in curtain rods and then when he realized he had been set up he denied bringing in curtain rods, thus ironically making him look guilty.

Both Randle and Frazier said the package was only 27 inches long.

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Alan what colour would you describe Williams' shirt that day?

Dull green. Uniform color. I.e. not plaid, not a mixture of green and red, not a mixture of any other colors. Not the shirt Mr Rowland remembered. The only elements in Mr Rowland's description that match Mr Williams are sex, race and thinness. The rest just doesn't fit!

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If it was Piper (or anyone else) why would Williams agree to get him to change his story?

Why would Mr Williams have to do any such thing?

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Also Norman and Jarman seem to be left out until months later. Surely they are key to Williams' timing too.

Well, until January, at the latest. I think they simply acceded to his panicked request to cover for him.

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The package Oswald carried in to the TSBD was only 27 inches long.

Ms Randle and Mr Frazier's length estimates are an uncanny match for the curtain rods' length (27.5 inches, 27.6 inches------as marked on the rods themselves that Lt. Day received for fingerprinting)!  Thumb1:

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It can't be ruled out that Oswald being set up that day and was told to bring in curtain rods and then when he realized he had been set up he denied bringing in curtain rods, thus ironically making him look guilty.

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Dull green. Uniform color. I.e. not plaid, not a mixture of green and red, not a mixture of any other colors. Not the shirt Mr Rowland remembered. The only elements in Mr Rowland's description that match Mr Williams are sex, race and thinness. The rest just doesn't fit!

Why would Mr Williams have to do any such thing?

Well, until January, at the latest. I think they simply acceded to his panicked request to cover for him.

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You do know Williams ate something other than chicken that day.....

Mr. BALL. Did you have anything else in your lunch besides chicken?
Mr. WILLIAMS. I had a bag of Fritos, I believe it was.

Anyone know the bright colours on a Fritos bag in 1963?

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