If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?

[Tim Nickerson]

We seem to be writing at the same time. I had not seen your previous post when I wrote the post you've now responded to. In the meantime I had removed my post again.

As for there not being a door directly behind where the girls were, connecting the office and the storage space, you may wish to re-examine the 4th floor plan used by the WC, because that clearly shows the presence of that door.

Thanks to John for posting the floor plan.

I had been looking at my copy of the fourth floor plan when I was coming up with the path that I thought Adams and Styles took.  "Door" is hard to see.

[Tim Nickerson]

Do you agree that if the girls used that door, it would reduce the distance to the stairs even further than you had calculated?

Of course.

[Martin Weidmann]

Of course.

Great. This means the girls could actually already be on the stairs on the 4th floor before the shooter even got to the stairwell on the 6th floor, right?

And if they go down the stairs at the same speed, the girls (with only 3 flights to go) could have arrived on the 1st floor before the shooter (who had 4 flights of stairs to go) could have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

[Tim Nickerson]

Great. This means the girls could actually already be on the stairs on the 4th floor before the shooter even got to the stairwell on the 6th floor, right?

And if they go down the stairs at the same speed, the girls (with only 3 flights to go) could have arrived on the 1st floor before the shooter (who had 4 flights of stairs to go) could have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

I suppose that it's possible, yes.

[Dan O'meara]

Martin,
What time do you have Shelley and Lovelady entering the side-door on the west of the building?

[Martin Weidmann]

I suppose that it's possible, yes.

Great. My next question would be about Shelley and Lovelady.

In Adam's testimony it says that she saw both men as she arrived on the 1st floor, but we know from Shelley's and Lovelady's testimony that both men were at the front of the building, near the main entrance, when the shots were fired. We also know from the same testimony that Lovelady saw Officer Baker running towards the building  and entering it with Truly, at an estimated 30 seconds after the shots were fired. Shelley and Lovelady also tell us that they first went to a little traffic island and then down the dead end road running parallel to the TSBD towards the parking lot on the west side of the TSBD where they stayed for a while. They did not re-enter the TSBD until 12.35, just prior to it being sealed off.

All this means that Shelley and Lovelady could physically not have been anywhere near the stairs in the north west corner of the TSBD at around 1 minute after the last shot, right?

We also know that Sandra Styles re-entered the TSBD through the main entrance at the front of the building at roughly 12.35 and that Victoria Adams stayed outside for a short while to talk to co-workers. She then heard a radio broadcast at 12.36 and tried to re-enter the building which by then had been sealed off. She had to talk her way in, went up the stairs to the 2nd floor, walked through the office space towards the freight elevators in the back of the building and went up to the 4th floor with two men she thought were police officers or secret service.

The only location where Shelley & Lovelady and Styles & Adams possibly crossed paths was at or near the parking lot at the end of the dead end street. Shelley and Lovelady said they were there before entering the building at the west side and Adams and Styles passed there when they were making their way to the front entrance.

So, the question is; could it be that Adams was mistaken in her testimony and that she saw Shelley and Lovelady (possibly as the first persons she knew) as their paths crossed at the parking lot?

[Martin Weidmann]

Martin,
What time do you have Shelley and Lovelady entering the side-door on the west of the building?

At 12.35... just prior to the building being sealed off