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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #112 on: May 15, 2020, 06:30:40 PM »
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In my mind this is nothing but a contrived excuse to make a bag that has no evidence of a rifle ever being in it a bag that was used to carry in the rifle allegedly found on the 6th floor.

Iacoletti,

Does a paper bag that's been used to sneak a disassembled carbine into a building have to bear evidence that it was used for that purpose?

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #113 on: May 15, 2020, 07:07:49 PM »
Iacoletti,

Does a paper bag that's been used to sneak a disassembled carbine into a building have to bear evidence that it was used for that purpose?

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #114 on: May 15, 2020, 07:13:19 PM »
Assumptions are good enough for Chapman.  It's not like he knows anything about the evidence anyway.

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #115 on: May 15, 2020, 07:17:46 PM »
Assumptions are good enough for Chapman.  It's not like he knows anything about the evidence anyway.

Iacoletti,

Why-oh-why was one of them wearing a medium-blue headscarf instead of a lavender one?

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2020, 04:26:50 AM »
In my mind this is nothing but a contrived excuse to make a bag that has no evidence of a rifle ever being in it a bag that was used to carry in the rifle allegedly found on the 6th floor.

You say "In my mind this is nothing but a contrived excuse...".

In your mind: That's not evidence.

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #117 on: May 16, 2020, 04:36:58 AM »
Oswald actually smuggling in the disassembled murder weapon in a bag aside, why would he include the wonky scope and how did he keep his prints off the rifle after reassembling it, taking 3 shots then ditching it before fleeing the scene? It takes precious time to wipe off all your prints and by rights there should have been a crapload of them all over the rifle. You must manhandle a rifle to reassemble it from parts. Also, Oswald could have saved some room/weight in the bag if he had removed the useless scope.

You need to ans those questions before debating what was in the bag. The conspirators didn't think this one thru. Oswald was obviously instructed to bring something in a long paper bag (long enough for a disassembled rifle) and be witnessed doing it. That's called sheep-dipping the patsy. Meanwhile, the MC was probably already on the 6th floor or in the possession of Roy Truly, who was probably up to his eyeballs in all this as much as Paine and De Mohrenschildt were as his handlers. Truly must have provided private access to the 6th floor for the conspirators to set up shop and kept the employees out of the picture. Someone should dig into Roy Truly's background.

Oswald actually smuggling in the disassembled murder weapon in a bag aside, why would he include the wonky scope and how did he keep his prints off the rifle after reassembling it, taking 3 shots then ditching it before fleeing the scene? It takes precious time to wipe off all your prints and by rights there should have been a crapload of them all over the rifle. You must manhandle a rifle to reassemble it from parts. Also, Oswald could have saved some room/weight in the bag if he had removed the useless scope.

None of those things "had to be done by Lee Oswald". Like all human beings, Oswald had "free will".

You need to ans those questions before debating what was in the bag.

No you don't.

The conspirators didn't think this one thru.

How do you know that?

Oswald was obviously instructed to bring something in a long paper bag (long enough for a disassembled rifle) and be witnessed doing it.

Why "obviously"?

That's called sheep-dipping the patsy. Meanwhile, the MC was probably already on the 6th floor or in the possession of Roy Truly, who was probably up to his eyeballs in all this as much as Paine and De Mohrenschildt were as his handlers.

Probably 1 and probably 2. It's all "probably".

Truly must have provided private access to the 6th floor for the conspirators to set up shop and kept the employees out of the picture. Someone should dig into Roy Truly's background.

Why Truly "must have"? What would compel Roy Truly to be part of a conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy?




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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #118 on: May 16, 2020, 06:28:36 AM »
Assumptions are good enough for Chapman.  It's not like he knows anything about the evidence anyway.

Chapman knows that a nobody shot a somebody in Dealey Plaza that day and has legions of worshippers crying about him to this very day. To the point of even taking a knee at his gravesite.

Well, in one instance anyway.
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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #119 on: May 16, 2020, 07:00:05 AM »
Chapman knows that a nobody shot a somebody in Dealey Plaza that day and has legions of worshippers crying about him to this very day. To the point of even taking a knee at his gravesite.

Well, in one instance anyway.

One wonders if those worshipers and apologists had a predisposition to hate and distrust American institutions before, or after, they read "Rush to Judgement" and saw "JFK," and whether or not they have ever read any "LNer" books or articles.

There are three or four of them somewhere, but no mutual-mastbatory "cottage industry" that I know of. 

LOL

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