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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2020, 06:26:38 PM »
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The back wound was moved up from "below the shoulder blade to the right of the spine " to the neck by Gerald R Ford.....An "EX" FBI agent who was a spy for J.E Hoover on the warren Commission....  Ford was rewarded for his derailing of the investigation by free room and board in our White house....

Ford didn't move the back wound, he changed the description of it's location from JFK's back to the back of his neck in the final draft.

There was disagreement about the validity of the SBT amongst the WC members.

Changing the description of where the back wound was located was an attempt to make the wounds line up and validate the theory (SBT). IMO


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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2020, 06:35:50 PM »
BS.

Can you point to the Z-frame when he was hit in the back of the neck?

Cyril Wecht pointed out during the HSCA proceedings:
Unless JFK bent over to tie his shoes when he went behind the Stemmons sign and got shot in that position, then straightened back up before emerging, the wound in his back is on a upward trajectory.

Even the WC commission new the back wound was lower than the throat wound.

The back wound was moved up from "below the shoulder blade to the right of the spine " to the neck by Gerald R Ford.....An "EX" FBI agent who was a spy for J.E Hoover on the warren Commission....  Ford was rewarded for his derailing of the investigation by free room and board in our White house....

Walt has latched on to Rankin's description of the back wound entering "below the shoulder blade". This, of course, is impossible. The bullet would have either encountered bone T6 or lower and damaged a lower lobe of the lung. Didn't happen. I doubt a bullet from the SN would have been able to cross above the seat back to enter at T6. Also the autopsy wound location and photographs do not support a wound entry below the scapula.

Critics are taking little cherry-picks and understandable, forgivable mistakes, and making a mountain out of them. It's not unique to the critics or other similar cults with a cause. It's systematic and psychiatrists are waking up to the impact of conspiracy-think on society. Fox News parlayed "sound bites" into a movement that appealed to idiots and eventually got the likes of Trump into the White House.

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2020, 06:57:00 PM »
I doubt a bullet from the SN would have been able to cross above the seat back to enter at T6.

So how do you know that bullet came from the "SN"?

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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2020, 07:02:29 PM »
Walt has latched on to Rankin's description of the back wound entering "below the shoulder blade". This, of course, is impossible. The bullet would have either encountered bone T6 or lower and damaged a lower lobe of the lung. Didn't happen. I doubt a bullet from the SN would have been able to cross above the seat back to enter at T6. Also the autopsy wound location and photographs do not support a wound entry below the scapula.

Critics are taking little cherry-picks and understandable, forgivable mistakes, and making a mountain out of them. It's not unique to the critics or other similar cults with a cause. It's systematic and psychiatrists are waking up to the impact of conspiracy-think on society. Fox News parlayed "sound bites" into a movement that appealed to idiots and eventually got the likes of Trump into the White House.


Two FBI agents, James Sibert and Francis O’Neill, attended the autopsy of President Kennedy.

They wrote a detailed report about everything they saw and heard.

It is the only contemporaneous eye–witness account of events at the autopsy.

During the HSCA they gave, independently of each other, what they saw as the location of the wound in JFK's back and throat on the diagrams below.



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Re: Six Seconds in Dallas-- Old book, a must read
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2020, 09:09:05 PM »

Two FBI agents, James Sibert and Francis O’Neill, attended the autopsy of President Kennedy.

They wrote a detailed report about everything they saw and heard.

It is the only contemporaneous eye–witness account of events at the autopsy.

During the HSCA they gave, independently of each other, what they saw as the location of the wound in JFK's back and throat on the diagrams below.



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Referring to 000995 ....   The back of JFK's head is missing, and the bullet path through his body slants downward from front to back.....And JFK was slammed violently against the seat back...   This makes perfect sense for a  sniper at the front of JFK.....but none of it makes sense it the sniper was to the rear.

A sniper to the rear would have blown out the front of JFK skull.....  and the bullet path through the body would have been slanted downward so the bullet wouldn't have exited his throat .....and he would have been blown forward not backward, by the impact of the bullet to his head.

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Online Jerry Organ

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« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2020, 09:56:07 PM »
Referring to 000995 ....   The back of JFK's head is missing, and the bullet path through his body slants downward from front to back.....And JFK was slammed violently against the seat back...   This makes perfect sense for a  sniper at the front of JFK.....but none of it makes sense it the sniper was to the rear.

A sniper to the rear would have blown out the front of JFK skull.....  and the bullet path through the body would have been slanted downward so the bullet wouldn't have exited his throat .....and he would have been blown forward not backward, by the impact of the bullet to his head.

Yeah, I can see why Sibert and O'Neill -- under the influence of CT kooks espousing theories and going by the CT interpretation of a "low" back wound in the autopsy photos -- would "move" the C7 entry wound several inches lower than it actually was.



They got to another law-enforcement "official" with the "low" back wound stuff: Mark Fuhrman (re: "A Simple Act of Murder").

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« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2020, 10:39:54 PM »
Yeah, I can see why Sibert and O'Neill -- under the influence of CT kooks espousing theories and going by the CT interpretation of a "low" back wound in the autopsy photos -- would "move" the C7 entry wound several inches lower than it actually was.



They got to another law-enforcement "official" with the "low" back wound stuff: Mark Fuhrman (re: "A Simple Act of Murder").

   Then again, maybe Agents Sibert & O'Neil actually used their own eyes the night of 11/22/63 regarding the BACK wound location?

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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2020, 11:22:10 PM »
   Then again, maybe Agents Sibert & O'Neil actually used their own eyes the night of 11/22/63 regarding the BACK wound location?

Their actual report stated: "During the latter stages of this autopsy, Dr. HUMES located an opening which appeared to be a bullet hole which was below the shoulders".

"Below the shoulders". What does that mean? The shoulder line? The shoulder muscle mass? T6 level? Below the shoulder blade?

Humes had photographed and described the "back wound" as at the base of the back of the neck. C7 level.

The autopsy report concluded the bullet that entered the back then exited through the throat wound as seen in the photograph at autopsy: the base of the front of the neck. T1 level.