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Offline Steve Thomas

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2018, 02:35:58 PM »
Shouldn't there have been some testimony esp from Truly that Oswald
encountered two cops while in the building? 

Dan,

Ah. Therein lies the rub.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2018, 03:01:03 PM »
Martin,

Is it?

Did Baker, in his after-action report, or in his WC testimony,  ask Oswald to "step aside momentarily"?

Steve Thomas

Steve,

I really don't know, but the mere fact that Baker did not mention such a minor detail in his report or testimony does not mean I didn't happen. Not everything that happens gets recorded is minute detail. In fact, the record in this case is often so blurred that it is hard to decide what is true and what isn't.



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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2018, 03:02:52 PM »
Why do you think Oswald was needed as a patsy? All that was needed was a rifle tied to Castro. Why do you think you understand my thinking on what happened? Did I say there was a shot from the front? Did I say multiple shooters? Why do you guys assume you know what critics of the official story think?

I admit I had a few misgivings after writing that because I wasn't sure what I said was relevant to you or your point in particular.

Aside from that, can you stop mangling what I said... I did not say any patsy was needed. That's the overall CT bailiwick.

Reading CTers here shows me that any theory will do and are therefore interchangeable, in whole or in part. I see your particular truth is the Castro thing.

Well. If any of you characters can show proof that anyone other than the shooter knew that an attempt was to be made on Kennedy that day, by all means post it.

Aside from that, I see where you're coming from Colin... and if I respect any CTer here it's you.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 03:05:36 PM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Dan DAlimonte

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2018, 03:12:00 PM »
Dan,

Ah. Therein lies the rub.

Steve Thomas

Well, Steve ... Speaking of tragedies.   One would think when he was being filmed at the DPD
the knucklehead would have stated that he and the rest of the employees - after giving
their contact info to Truly with a cop present -  were all told to vacate the building.
I mean, he did have enough in him to say he was a Patsy ... why not that?  All of us were told to leave
so I thought I catch a movie.  What is this?

Unless, of course, it was a Greek tragedy where some of the blame for the tragedy
did rest on the main character. 
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 03:22:59 PM by Dan DAlimonte »

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2018, 03:22:38 PM »
Well, Steve ... Speaking of tragedies.   One would think when he was being filmed at the DPD
the knucklehead would have stated that he and the rest of the employees - after giving
their contact info to Truly with a cop present -  were all told to vacate the building.
I mean, he did have enough in him to say he was a Patsy ... why not that?  All of us were told to leave
so I thought I catch a movie. 

Unless, of course, it was a Greek tragedy where some of the blame for the tragedy
did rest on the main character.

Tell us that Oswald, by exclaiming 'I'm just a PATSY!' wasn't simply a summing up of what he said about about being brought in because he had lived in the Soviet Union.

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2018, 03:35:34 PM »
Tell us that Oswald, by exclaiming 'I'm just a PATSY!' wasn't simply a summing up of what he said about about being brought in because he had lived in the Soviet Union.

Hey, Bill.  I know you tend to paint all CT's with the same brush but I think
Oswald was as guilty as sin.  He was no damn patsy in my book.  Okay? 
To me, he was part of a team and it had to appear he acted alone.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 04:01:32 PM by Dan DAlimonte »

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2018, 04:34:28 PM »
You can't negotiate the truth in a factual matter to meet someone halfway.  The totality of facts and evidence in this case demonstrate beyond any doubt that Oswald was the assassin.  There is no credible evidence of anyone else being involved.  We can never know every detail with absolute 100% certainty.  That impossible standard is advocated by many CTers and confused for doubt.  The basic distinction in this case is the evidence.  If you accept it as genuine, then there is no doubt of Oswald's guilt.  If you believe it is mostly the product of fakery and lies, then you entertain a conspiracy.  There is no getting around or having a constructive conversation once you reach that impasse.