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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2018, 08:19:55 AM »
Now you have to come up with a story as to why a patsy would be needed in the first place, and what would be the point of then shooting from the front while placing Oswald to shoot from behind.

It seems to me critics have to keep trowling on yet more and more stories to explain such contradictions.

Why do you think Oswald was needed as a patsy? All that was needed was a rifle tied to Castro. Why do you think you understand my thinking on what happened? Did I say there was a shot from the front? Did I say multiple shooters? Why do you guys assume you know what critics of the official story think?

Offline Steve Thomas

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2018, 10:39:20 AM »
Dan,


Other than that, I agree that Oswald leaving the TSBD so quickly is troublesome and does not bode well for him being an innocent bystander.

Martin,

I'm not so sure he did.
It's a question of when the building was sealed off. The earliest I can place that is when Lumpkin arrived at 12:49.
When he did arrive, he ordered Lt. Kaminsky to stay at the front door. Inspector Sawyer ordered the building sealed off, but that was only after he had been inside, been up to the 4th floor or so, and returned back outside to the sidewalk.

In his after-action report, Lumpkin wrote:


"Lieutenant Erich Kaminski was placed on the inner door of the building...As each office and floor was cleared the employees were stopped by Kaminski and Mr. Truly at the front door where their names, addresses and telephone numbers were written down, and they were identified by Mr. Truly as to their employment.?

In his Report on the Interrogations of Oswald, Harry Homes wrote of his interrogation on November 24th, ?...when he (Oswald) went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification, and his boss stated that ?he is one of our employees? whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building..?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=946#relPageId=660&tab=page

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2018, 11:50:43 AM »
I don't remember that.  Even the unscientific, subjective handwriting "analyzers" said that this part wasn't his handwriting.

You're right ...my mistake....We don't know who actually penned that inscription.....But the actual stenographer is unimportant or at least beside the point ..... Whoever wrote it knew that Lee was playing the role of a Hunter of Fascists.

And General Walker was that  Fascist......

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2018, 12:44:34 PM »
Martin,

I'm not so sure he did.
It's a question of when the building was sealed off. The earliest I can place that is when Lumpkin arrived at 12:49.
When he did arrive, he ordered Lt. Kaminsky to stay at the front door. Inspector Sawyer ordered the building sealed off, but that was only after he had been inside, been up to the 4th floor or so, and returned back outside to the sidewalk.

In his after-action report, Lumpkin wrote:


"Lieutenant Erich Kaminski was placed on the inner door of the building...As each office and floor was cleared the employees were stopped by Kaminski and Mr. Truly at the front door where their names, addresses and telephone numbers were written down, and they were identified by Mr. Truly as to their employment.?

In his Report on the Interrogations of Oswald, Harry Homes wrote of his interrogation on November 24th, ?...when he (Oswald) went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification, and his boss stated that ?he is one of our employees? whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building..?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=946#relPageId=660&tab=page

Steve Thomas

Hey, Steve.  Curious.  If Oswald was detained with other employees until they were cleared
before they left from the front door, one by one, shouldn't some of the exits have been caught
on film let alone Oswald's?  Shouldn't there have been some testimony esp from Truly that Oswald
encountered two cops while in the building?  Some list that their addresses and phone numbers
were written down by Truly esp Oswald's?  And, it goes on ...  Some kind of comment from Oswald,
himself, when he was filmed in the DPD which would have presented his departure in a better light?
 
What?  We were told by our supervisor and a cop after we gave our contact information to vacate
the building so I went to see a movie.  What is this?
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 01:00:26 PM by Dan DAlimonte »

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2018, 01:08:54 PM »
Martin,

I'm not so sure he did.
It's a question of when the building was sealed off. The earliest I can place that is when Lumpkin arrived at 12:49.
When he did arrive, he ordered Lt. Kaminsky to stay at the front door. Inspector Sawyer ordered the building sealed off, but that was only after he had been inside, been up to the 4th floor or so, and returned back outside to the sidewalk.

In his after-action report, Lumpkin wrote:


"Lieutenant Erich Kaminski was placed on the inner door of the building...As each office and floor was cleared the employees were stopped by Kaminski and Mr. Truly at the front door where their names, addresses and telephone numbers were written down, and they were identified by Mr. Truly as to their employment.?

In his Report on the Interrogations of Oswald, Harry Homes wrote of his interrogation on November 24th, ?...when he (Oswald) went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification, and his boss stated that ?he is one of our employees? whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building..?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=946#relPageId=660&tab=page

Steve Thomas

In his Report on the Interrogations of Oswald, Harry Homes wrote of his interrogation on November 24th, ?...when he (Oswald) went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification, and his boss stated that ?he is one of our employees? whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building..?

Isn't this about the Baker/Truly meeting with Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom?

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2018, 02:00:58 PM »
Why do you think Oswald was needed as a patsy? All that was needed was a rifle tied to Castro. Why do you think you understand my thinking on what happened? Did I say there was a shot from the front? Did I say multiple shooters? Why do you guys assume you know what critics of the official story think?

All that was needed was a rifle tied to Castro.


Is this what you intended to write, Colin?

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Re: Am I the only CT here who can meet the LN's more than half way? If not ...
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2018, 02:32:42 PM »
In his Report on the Interrogations of Oswald, Harry Homes wrote of his interrogation on November 24th, ?...when he (Oswald) went downstairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification, and his boss stated that ?he is one of our employees? whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building..?

Isn't this about the Baker/Truly meeting with Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom?

Martin,

Is it?

Did Baker, in his after-action report, or in his WC testimony,  ask Oswald to "step aside momentarily"?

Steve Thomas