Shells, rifle, SN... Who?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #245 on: April 05, 2020, 10:24:39 PM »
So has Ralph Cinque.

Did Ralph know that the initials DPD meant...  Damned poor Deceivers?

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« Reply #246 on: April 05, 2020, 10:47:53 PM »
NO, he did NOT..... Weitzman was called back to examine a rifle later that afternoon for Detective CW Brown, and FBI agent A1bert Sawyers. and THAT's the rifle he described for Sawyers.  ORIGINALLY ( at the time Day picked the rifle up from the floor ) he simply said that the rifle looked like a 7.65 mauser.  He never DESCRIBED any details at that time. 

Well, that’s the story you made up. That’s not what Weitzman said in his affidavit.

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« Reply #247 on: April 05, 2020, 10:55:35 PM »
Well, that’s the story you made up. That’s not what Weitzman said in his affidavit.

No I didn't make up the testimony of Weitzman telling Ball that he went to the DPD later that afternoon for an interview.

Post the affidavit..... 

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« Reply #248 on: April 06, 2020, 12:54:31 AM »
No I didn't make up the testimony of Weitzman telling Ball that he went to the DPD later that afternoon for an interview.

Post the affidavit.....

I mean the bit about him being called back to examine a rifle.

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #249 on: April 06, 2020, 01:03:53 AM »
I mean the bit about him being called back to examine a rifle.

Weitzman basically said that he saw a mauser later that afternoon..... Use your head John.   Weitzmen said that he got only a quick glimpse of the rifle at the time Day picked the rifle up from the floor, and from that quick glimpse he assumed that it was a 7.65 mauser.  He couldn't have gave the details that FBI agent Sawyers recorded in his report from the information his eyes gathered when Day lifted the carcano up from the floor.

When Weitzman was being interviewed by sawyers he  had to have been given a 7.65 mauser to describe.....
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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #251 on: April 06, 2020, 04:16:23 PM »




What's the point ( or points) that you're attempting to make?   

Thanks for posting Sawyer's report. The part enclosed in red is the pertinent part.

Mr Weitzman described the rifle which was found   Where and when was this rifle found ??

as a 7.65 caliber bolt action rifle which loads from a five shot clip which is locked on the underside of the receiver forward of the trigger guard.

This clearly describes a 7.65 Argentine mauser.

The metal parts of this rifle were of gun metal color , gray or blue.

The TSBD carcano's metal was blue.

and the rear portion of the bolt was visibly worn.

The rear of the bolt on the carcano is NOT visibly worn.

The wooden portions of this rifle were  dark brown in color and of rough wood,

The wooden stock of the carcano is black  and it is NOT rough wood.

apparently having been used or damaged  to considerable extent.

The carcano stock is not battered or damaged....

This rifle is equipped with a four power scope of apparent Japanese manufacture.

The scope on the Carcano is clearly marked ..."MADE IN JAPAN"

It is also equipped with a thick brown-black leather bandolier type sling

The Carcano has a light duty black leather finished, carry strap the backside of the strap is unfinished rough tan leather.... it is NOT a bandolier type sling.

After he observed the rifle to the extent described above Captain Fritz appeared and took the rifle from him.

HUH???    This doesn't fit with any other witness report ......

He did not make note of any serial number on the rifle.
He observed Captain Fritz eject one rifle round of ammunition from this rifle.

Really???? Fritz would have given a loaded rifle to Weitzman??

  At this point he discontinued his search of the sixth floor of the building.
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