Shells, rifle, SN... Who?

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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #252 on: April 06, 2020, 07:43:06 PM »
What's the point ( or points) that you're attempting to make?

Posted the FBI report to counter your made up interpretation of it, in reply #250, at the top of this page.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #253 on: April 06, 2020, 07:49:19 PM »
Posted the FBI report to counter your made up interpretation of it, in reply #250, at the top of this page.

Made Up??....  Get you head out!.....  I'm trying to decipher Sawyer's report..... 

Offline Joffrey van de Wiel

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« Reply #254 on: April 07, 2020, 01:56:53 AM »
Whether or not a Mauser was found in the TSBD is irrelevant, as the bullet found at Parkland after falling out of the Governor's thigh, as well as the two large bullet fragments recovered from the limousine were determined to have been fired through the barrel of the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world.

No bullets or cartridges of 7.65 mm were ever recovered at the assassination scenes: the TSBD, Dealey Plaza etc.

Lead fragments recovered from the victims' bodies and the limousine were analyzed using Neutron Activation Analyses and it turned out that they all originated from the recovered bullet and fragments.

The evidence tying Oswald to the "assassination rifle" is questionable or so I am lead to believe.
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #255 on: April 07, 2020, 02:16:06 AM »
Whether or not a Mauser was found in the TSBD is irrelevant, as the bullet found at Parkland after falling out of the Governor's thigh, as well as the to large bullet fragment recovered from the limousine were determined to have been fired through the barrel of the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world.

No bullets or cartridges of 7.65 mm were ever recovered at the assassination scenes: the TSBD, Dealey Plaza etc.

Lead fragments recovered from the victims' bodies and the limousine were analyzed using Neutron Activation Analyses and it turned out that they all originated from the recovered bullet and fragments.

The evidence tying Oswald to the "assassination rifle" is questionable or so I am lead to believe.

While I agree in general with you Joffrey...there are several points that I would not agree with.....

Whether or not a Mauser was found in the TSBD is irrelevant,   Yes it is irrelevant for the reason you point out....But it IS relevant from the perspective that "Someone" was attempting to introduce a mauser into the evidence stream  ( see FBI agent  A1bert Sawers report)

What was the reason???

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #256 on: April 07, 2020, 02:44:19 PM »
While I agree in general with you Joffrey...there are several points that I would not agree with.....

Whether or not a Mauser was found in the TSBD is irrelevant,   Yes it is irrelevant for the reason you point out....But it IS relevant from the perspective that "Someone" was attempting to introduce a mauser into the evidence stream  ( see FBI agent  A1bert Sawers report)

What was the reason???

I  believe it was a matter of mis-identification of the Mannlicher-Carcano. Apparently, it is similar in appearance as the Mauser in question. On the picture below, a Mauser on top and the Mannlicher-Carcano at the bottom.


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« Reply #257 on: April 07, 2020, 04:41:35 PM »
I  believe it was a matter of mis-identification of the Mannlicher-Carcano. Apparently, it is similar in appearance as the Mauser in question. On the picture below, a Mauser on top and the Mannlicher-Carcano at the bottom.



I  believe it was a matter of mis-identification of the Mannlicher-Carcano.

Joffery, THAT  is what the discussion has been about for decades.....   And you're right.... BUT there had to have been a 7.65 mauser in Weitzman's hands or he could not have gave the detailed description of that mauser.

There's no doubt what- so- ever that the rifle that Weitzman and Boone discovered was in fact a Mannlicher Carcano ....SO the question becomes...WHO tried to introduce a 7.65 mauser into the evidence stream, and what was their motive???

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #258 on: April 07, 2020, 04:56:42 PM »
I  believe it was a matter of mis-identification of the Mannlicher-Carcano. Apparently, it is similar in appearance as the Mauser in question. On the picture below, a Mauser on top and the Mannlicher-Carcano at the bottom.



Both of the rifles illustrated are Mannlicher Carcano..... So they should look alike........ 

It's interesting that someone has photographically mounted a scope on the carcano in the lower photo....  It's hilarious !!   They've "mounted" the scope on the right hand side, which would render the rifle useless.....
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