Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.

[Charles Collins]

I think before you start applying cartoon shadows and handing out lollipops,

You need to consider the date at which that picture was taken.
Was it even taken on the 22nd?

That picture is not very clear.
Can you really ascertain our bag from what looks like box flaps and packing paper?
And why has no one ever recorded that location before on this important piece of evidence?

I can’t say that I know for certain what day the photo was taken. But I can say that what you term the “cartoon” shadows are computer generated images which are scientifically based on the architecture of the TSBD and the position of the sun at the specific times indicated on 11/22/63.

[Peter Goth]

I can’t say that I know for certain what day the photo was taken. But I can say that what you term the “cartoon” shadows are computer generated images which are scientifically based on the architecture of the TSBD and the position of the sun at the specific times indicated on 11/22/63.

yea, sure it is. 

[Charles Collins]

yea sure it is >>

I invite disbelievers to create their own model and try it for themselves. The computer program is free and available online. Actual measurements of critical items the TSBD were generously provided by Steven Fagan, curator for the Sixth Floor Museum. These were shared by Jerry Organ in another thread on this site. It does require a lot of patience and tedious work to create the structure model. But it is a valuable tool.

[Charles Collins]

Some pictures were taken shortly after the ones taken of the rifle in-situ on Nov. 22nd.

Photo of SN aisle seems to have a different camera setting than photos to right; outer boxes unmoved; could have been taken on the 22nd

Photo of aisle next to SN aisle is darker; photo taken on 25th during SN reconstruction

Photo of aisle two-over from SN aisle is darker; photo taken on 25th during SN reconstruction

The long paper bag was photographed being taken out of the TSBD on 11/22/63 around 2:19. Was it taken to the DPD crime lab and locked up similarly to the way that Day testified the rifle was? If so, is there any evidence that it was taken back to the TSBD for sniper’s nest reconstruction purposes?

[Pat Speer]

If you lived in Kansas during the 1870's it would have been DODGE City: Possibly in CONTRARIAN Street.

a.) His means "his".

b.) Oswald's prints were on the long paper bag found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.

The bag matched the general description of the one Buell Frazier saw Oswald carry into the rear entrance to the TSBD.

The palm-print's position on the paper bag corresponds to the way Oswald carried it--according to Buell Frazier.

This goes back to what I was complaining about on another thread...the slow pace at which new information seeps in. When I went back through the fingerprint evidence in 2015, I discovered that the fingerprint was on the bottom of the bag and the palm print was on the side. I revealed this at that year's Lancer Conference, and demonstrate this in the Shining a Light on the Warren Report section of Chapter 4c at patspeer.com.


P.S. As I crawled through this thread, I was pleasantly surprised to see that John Iaccoletti (and later Michael Walton) had made reference to my discovery. So new information does seep in...sometimes... Yeah, John and Michael.

[Walt Cakebread]

This goes back to what I was complaining about on another thread...the slow pace at which new information seeps in. When I went back through the fingerprint evidence in 2015, I discovered that the fingerprint was on the bottom of the bag and the palm print was on the side. I revealed this at that year's Lancer Conference, and demonstrate this in the Shining a Light on the Warren Report section of Chapter 4c at patspeer.com.


P.S. As I crawled through this thread, I was pleasantly surprised to see that John Iaccoletti had made reference to my discovery. So new information does seep in...sometimes... Yeah, John.

But what is the importance of your discovery?.....Can you prove how the prints got on the bag?..... Doesn't just a couple of prints strike you as a bit suspicious?

If Lee had carried that bag his prints should have been all over the place.

[Martin Weidmann]

But what is the importance of your discovery?.....Can you prove how the prints got on the bag?..... Doesn't just a couple of prints strike you as a bit suspicious?

If Lee had carried that bag his prints should have been all over the place.

Wasn't the LN claim that the palmprint was on the bottom of the bag and that it was significant because Frazier saw Oswald carry the bag in his cupped hand?

Pat's discovery blows that one right out of the water, doesn't it?