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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #91 on: March 11, 2020, 11:26:57 PM »
Thanks John.....February was when Lee and George first started plotting the walker hoax....  Naturally one of the first obstacles was....What to do about Marina? How could they get her out of the way?....  Thus Lee must have told her to go back to Russia.....

From “Marina and Lee” by McMillan:

Lee’s increasing inability to control himself both at home and at work suggests that emotionally he was in turmoil. What cannot be known is whether his deterioration was the result of a cumulative process that had been taking place for months, or whether in January he suffered some sort of precipitous “breakdown,” triggered perhaps by Marina’s letter to Anatoly on January 7, her brief pregnancy scare on the 10th with its hint of added responsibility, and her subsequent confession of infidelity...

... but it may also have been an indication that he had conceived another plan—a violent, destructive expression of his political views that would require a cover. Ordering a revolver on January 27 under a false name, and his hints to Marina starting the same day that he was thinking of sending her back to Russia without him, both suggest that he was leaning further toward violence.

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #92 on: March 12, 2020, 12:03:05 AM »
From “Marina and Lee” by McMillan:

Lee’s increasing inability to control himself both at home and at work suggests that emotionally he was in turmoil. What cannot be known is whether his deterioration was the result of a cumulative process that had been taking place for months, or whether in January he suffered some sort of precipitous “breakdown,” triggered perhaps by Marina’s letter to Anatoly on January 7, her brief pregnancy scare on the 10th with its hint of added responsibility, and her subsequent confession of infidelity...

... but it may also have been an indication that he had conceived another plan—a violent, destructive expression of his political views that would require a cover. Ordering a revolver on January 27 under a false name, and his hints to Marina starting the same day that he was thinking of sending her back to Russia without him, both suggest that he was leaning further toward violence.



Thank you....But we simply don't know what George and Lee were plotting at that point.    Perhaps they originally plotted to actually shoot General Walker, but realized that they were skating on thin ice with that plot....after all if they were caught, a murder conviction might just put them in the electric chair.

Can we stay focused on the letter to the Russian Embassy?
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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #93 on: March 12, 2020, 12:22:48 AM »
Ordering a revolver on January 27 under a false name, and his hints to Marina starting the same day that he was thinking of sending her back to Russia without him, both suggest that he was leaning further toward violence.

I think what this suggests is that McMillan overestimates her mindreading abilities.
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #94 on: March 12, 2020, 04:26:37 PM »
I think what this suggests is that McMillan overestimates her mindreading abilities.

Ha!
She and Posner both have amazing intuition. He deciphered ""the smirk", an obvious sign of guilt.

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #95 on: March 12, 2020, 04:33:16 PM »
Ha!
She and Posner both have amazing intuition. He deciphered ""the smirk", an obvious sign of guilt.

More obvious signs of guilt courtesy of Bugliosi:

- Leaving his wedding ring behind at the Paine house
- Not reading the newspaper in the domino room that morning
- Going to the second floor to get a Coke when he preferred Dr. Pepper
- Not being chatty with the cab driver
- Showing reporters his handcuffed hands
- Marina thinking his eyes looked guilty
- Leaving his blue jacket in the domino room
- Leaving a clipboard on the sixth floor

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #96 on: March 12, 2020, 05:14:35 PM »
More obvious signs of guilt courtesy of Bugliosi:

- Leaving his wedding ring behind at the Paine house
- Not reading the newspaper in the domino room that morning
- Going to the second floor to get a Coke when he preferred Dr. Pepper
- Not being chatty with the cab driver
- Showing reporters his handcuffed hands
- Marina thinking his eyes looked guilty
- Leaving his blue jacket in the domino room
- Leaving a clipboard on the sixth floor

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #97 on: March 12, 2020, 05:41:17 PM »
Thank you....But we simply don't know what George and Lee were plotting at that point.    Perhaps they originally plotted to actually shoot General Walker, but realized that they were skating on thin ice with that plot....after all if they were caught, a murder conviction might just put them in the electric chair.

Can we stay focused on the letter to the Russian Embassy?

They could skate? Are you sure that was their cup of tea?