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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #84 on: March 11, 2020, 04:31:58 PM »

When Lee was in Minsk he often sent letters ( sometimes picture post cards) to his mother, that contained photos of places in Russia.  Those photos revealed places that were of interest to US intel.  Lee knew that his letters would be read by the Russians before they left the USSR and by US intel when they arrived in the US.
 So Lee knew how to send seemingly innocuous information  in a letter to his mother.


So how did LHO know that the photos would have been allowed to go to “sweet Marguerite” aka mommy dearest; especially if they were of interest to US intelligence?

It was a gamble....  But if the picture on a post card showed a view of Minsk that included the Russian Foreign Language school ....perhaps the US could use that information....  So he'd send the innocuous post card....  If it was useful to US intel.... that was fine, but if they didn't need the info, that was also OK.


But you haven't answered the question;....Did Lee inform the reader that " Nichilayevea " was living in Dallas??
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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #85 on: March 11, 2020, 07:39:30 PM »
It was a gamble....  But if the picture on a post card showed a view of Minsk that included the Russian Foreign Language school ....perhaps the US could use that information....  So he'd send the innocuous post card....  If it was useful to US intel.... that was fine, but if they didn't need the info, that was also OK.


But you haven't answered the question;....Did Lee inform the reader that " Nichilayevea " was living in Dallas??

I believe that I found the name LHO was apparently trying to spell, and a reason that he used that name. Here is a link to a letter (translated to English) to Marina from the USSR Embassy in Washington DC dated June 4, 1963 regarding her request for an entrance visa (Notice the name that they used for Marina):


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=532&search=letter_to%20soviet%20embassy


I appears reasonable to me that LHO would use that same name when writing back to them about her visa...

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Operation Mongoose
« Reply #86 on: March 11, 2020, 08:12:32 PM »
I believe that I found the name LHO was apparently trying to spell, and a reason that he used that name. Here is a link to a letter (translated to English) to Marina from the USSR Embassy in Washington DC dated June 4, 1963 regarding her request for an entrance visa (Notice the name that they used for Marina):


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=532&search=letter_to%20soviet%20embassy


I appears reasonable to me that LHO would use that same name when writing back to them about her visa...

So you think that Nicolaevna is the same as Nichilayevea  ??      Do you believe that Collins is the same as Coolims   ??

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« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2020, 08:22:46 PM »
So you think that Nicolaevna is the same as Nichilayevea  ??      Do you believe that Collins is the same as Coolims   ??


LHO frequently misspelled words. Some have said that his dyslexia contributed to that. I think that his lack of attendance and lack of paying attention in school did also.

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« Reply #88 on: March 11, 2020, 08:39:06 PM »
I believe that I found the name LHO was apparently trying to spell, and a reason that he used that name. Here is a link to a letter (translated to English) to Marina from the USSR Embassy in Washington DC dated June 4, 1963 regarding her request for an entrance visa (Notice the name that they used for Marina):


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=532&search=letter_to%20soviet%20embassy


I appears reasonable to me that LHO would use that same name when writing back to them about her visa...

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=532&search=letter_to%20soviet%20embassy

Ah....So the soup starts to bubble!....  Good!....  So according to this letter from the Russian Embassy  Marina sent a request to the Russians some time prior to April 18, 1963.   Verrrrrry Interesting1....  What was going on in The Oswald's life at that time?     As I recall this was the time of the Walker incident....So someone from the Oswald household must have sent a letter to he embassy requesting that Marina be allowed to take up residence in Russia.    Now WHY would someone want Marina out of the way at that particular time???

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« Reply #89 on: March 11, 2020, 08:47:20 PM »
Mr. RANKIN. When did you first consider the possibility of returning to the Soviet Union?
Mrs. OSWALD. I never considered that, but I was forced to because Lee insisted on it.
Mr. RANKIN. When you considered it, as you were forced to, by his insistence, do you know when it was with reference to your first request to the Embassy, which was February 17, 1963?
Mrs. OSWALD. February 17?
Mr. RANKIN. Yes.
Mrs. OSWALD. I think it was a couple of weeks before that, at the beginning of February.
Mr. RANKIN. Did your husband know about the letter you sent to the Embassy on February 17?
Mrs. OSWALD. Of course. He handed me the paper, a pencil, and said, "Write."
Mr. RANKIN. Did he tell you what to put in the letter, or was that your own drafting?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, I knew myself what I had to write, and these were my words. What could I do if my husband didn't want to live with me? At least that is what I thought.

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« Reply #90 on: March 11, 2020, 09:03:13 PM »
Mr. RANKIN. When did you first consider the possibility of returning to the Soviet Union?
Mrs. OSWALD. I never considered that, but I was forced to because Lee insisted on it.
Mr. RANKIN. When you considered it, as you were forced to, by his insistence, do you know when it was with reference to your first request to the Embassy, which was February 17, 1963?
Mrs. OSWALD. February 17?
Mr. RANKIN. Yes.
Mrs. OSWALD. I think it was a couple of weeks before that, at the beginning of February.
Mr. RANKIN. Did your husband know about the letter you sent to the Embassy on February 17?
Mrs. OSWALD. Of course. He handed me the paper, a pencil, and said, "Write."
Mr. RANKIN. Did he tell you what to put in the letter, or was that your own drafting?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, I knew myself what I had to write, and these were my words. What could I do if my husband didn't want to live with me? At least that is what I thought.

Thanks John.....February was when Lee and George first started plotting the walker hoax....  Naturally one of the first obstacles was....What to do about Marina? How could they get her out of the way?....  Thus Lee must have told her to go back to Russia.....