Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #77 on: October 25, 2019, 06:30:22 AM »
Who was lying --Bill Shelley or Roy Truly?
Shelly stated in his sworn affidavit that HE mentioned that Oswald was missing to Truly ...

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On the other hand----Truly testified that he told Shelley that Oswald was missing..................DUH
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Mr. BELIN. Had they sealed off the building yet, do you know?
Mr. TRULY. I am sure they had. {Did not agree with Fritz' report that while the search was still on, Oswald was reported missing}
Mr. BELIN. Then what?
Mr. TRULY. Then in a few minutes--it could have been moments or minutes at a time like that--I noticed some of my boys were over in the west corner of the shipping department, and there were several officers over there taking their names and addresses, and so forth.
There were other officers in other parts of the building taking other employees, like office people's names. I noticed that Lee Oswald was not among these boys.
So I picked up the telephone and called Mr. Aiken down at the other warehouse who keeps our application blanks. Back up there.
First I mentioned to Mr. Campbell--I asked Bill Shelley if he had seen him, he looked around and said no.
Mr. BELIN. When you asked Bill Shelley if he had seen whom?
Mr. TRULY. Lee Oswald. I said, "Have you seen him around lately," and he said no.
So Mr. Campbell is standing there, and I said, "I have a boy over here missing. I don't know whether to report it or not." Because I had another one or two out then. I didn't know whether they were all there or not. He said, "What do you think"? And I got to thinking. He said, "Well, we better do it anyway." It was so quick after that. {I'll bet}
So I picked the phone up then and called Mr. Aiken, at the warehouse, and got the boy's name and general description and telephone number and address at Irving.

Online John Mytton

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #78 on: October 25, 2019, 06:37:41 AM »
    Your "few minutes" for the JFK Motorcade to exit Dealey Plaza would alter the currently accepted time lines of several assassination Films, Photos, as well as the individuals captured in those images. It was inevitable that You would eventually realize that these accepted time lines are Not legit.

I'm prepared to be corrected, where is your footage/photos which shows no traffic on Elm or Houston and which is timestamped a few minutes after the assassination? Thanks in advance.

Since you are a non image posting expert, how long after the assassination was the "accepted time line" of this piece of assassination film?



I didn't label the next image but if the time is accurate then it looks like what I said is a reasonable scenario.

Have you actually read Hosty's note, all Hosty says is that Oswald went out to watch the P.Parade and we know Oswald went outside a few minutes later and would have seen part of the "stalled" P.Parade.
A President's Parade is more than 1 car!

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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #79 on: October 25, 2019, 07:22:46 AM »
David Von Pein on Today at 01:59:16 AM:

... The Internet CTers are the last people on the planet who should be looking into this case...


We agree on that and "there is nothing suspect (handwriting debate notwithstanding) about the $21.45 PMO sent to Klein's and deposited at Klein's bank, etc."
Armstrong is not of the internet.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2019, 07:29:20 AM by Tom Scully »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #80 on: October 25, 2019, 10:48:34 AM »
Who was lying --Bill Shelley or Roy Truly?
Shelly stated in his sworn affidavit that HE mentioned that Oswald was missing to Truly ...

Indeed!  Thumb1:

Btw....Mr Dougherty told the WC that Mr Shelley told him he "thought he saw him (=Mr Oswald) carrying a fairly good-sized package" that morning.

Makes sense-------Mr Oswald brought curtain rods to work that day------they were later found in the building and tested for his fingerprints!


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #81 on: October 25, 2019, 10:53:52 AM »
How would you explain the fact that there is a dark strip down Mr Lovelady's right side in Wiegman despite the fact that he was nowhere near the shadow cast by the western column of the entranceway?

Bumped for Mr Mytton!  Thumb1:

Online John Mytton

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #82 on: October 25, 2019, 11:00:36 AM »
Bumped for Mr Mytton!  Thumb1:

I have no idea what you're talking about, you lost all credibility a long time ago and now you're claiming to be a photo expert, Give me a break.
The problem with the internet is that everybody thinks they're an expert, time to wake up.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2019, 12:06:29 PM »
I have no idea what you're talking about, you lost all credibility a long time ago and now you're claiming to be a photo expert, Give me a break.
The problem with the internet is that everybody thinks they're an expert, time to wake up.

JohnM

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"I am forced to confirm that I can't explain the dark 'shadow' down Mr Lovelady's right side in Wiegman" would have done just fine, Mr Mytton!

But don't beat yourself up-----neither can anyone else  Thumb1: