Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2019, 01:48:33 AM »
Already did. You know that. It's in my "I'm Just A Patsy" video. Here it is again...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-rcjDGNFEH_TjlCazd2ZmN0Wmc/view

And you aren't going to argue that Oswald didn't know what the reporter meant when he said "at the time", are you Mr. Ford? ....

REPORTER -- "Were you in the building at the time?"

But the word 'INSIDE' is not used there, Mr Von Pein, so you must have meant a different quote when you told us Mr Oswald said he was 'INSIDE' (look, you even put the word in CAPITALS).

Looking forward to hearing the quote you actually meant!  Thumb1:

Online David Von Pein

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2019, 01:59:16 AM »
But the word 'INSIDE' is not used there, Mr Von Pein, so you must have meant a different quote when you told us Mr Oswald said he was 'INSIDE' (look, you even put the word in CAPITALS).

Looking forward to hearing the quote you actually meant!  Thumb1:

As I said before, CTers have no ability to properly evaluate the JFK evidence. The Internet CTers are the last people on the planet who should be looking into this case.

Alan Ford now wants to argue that when Oswald said "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes, sir" when answering the question of "Were you in the building at the time?", Oswald really meant this:

"Well, yeah, sort of....I was kinda IN the building, but I was really OUTSIDE on the steps....but I guess you should consider the steps to be IN the building too (even though the steps are, of course, OUTSIDE the front door)....but I guess I was kinda IN the building....in a way....sort of....you know?"

(It's always hysterical when CTers do this IN IS REALLY OUT thing. I get a kick out of it.)
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Online John Mytton

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2019, 02:04:24 AM »
Mr Oswald's off-the-cuff response to the reporter's question (where the word 'inside' is nowhere used btw) is supplemented and clarified by this:



No contradiction: Mr Oswald was in the entranceway. Sorreee!

Have you actually read Hosty's note, all Hosty says is that Oswald went out to watch the P.Parade and we know Oswald went outside a few minutes later and would have seen part of the "stalled" P.Parade.
A President's Parade is more than 1 car!

JohnM

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2019, 02:05:52 AM »
As I said before, CTers have no ability to properly evaluate the JFK evidence. The Internet CTers are the last people on the planet who should be looking into this case.

Alan Ford now wants to argue that when Oswald said "Naturally, if I work in that building, yes, sir" when answering the question of "Were you in the building at the time?", Oswald really meant this:

"Well, yeah, sort of....I was kinda IN the building, but I was really OUTSIDE on the steps....but I guess you should consider the steps to be IN the building too....I guess....sort of...."

(It's always hysterical when CTers do this IN IS REALLY OUT thing. I get a kick out of it.)

Thanks for confirming that you misquoted Mr Oswald, Mr Von Pein! He never used the word 'inside'  Thumb1:

Now! You have given to understand that Mr Oswald's claim to have gone 'outside to watch P. parade'-------------



-------------was not hushed up by Captain Fritz.

Kindly point us to where Captain Fritz mentions Mr Oswald's claim. Feel free to range over his WC testimony, his reports, his notes. You're the archival master, this should be no trouble to you!  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2019, 02:10:37 AM »
Have you actually read Hosty's note, all Hosty says is that Oswald went out to watch the P.Parade and we know Oswald went outside a few minutes later and would have seen part of the "stalled" P.Parade.
A President's Parade is more than 1 car!

JohnM

Yes, I can just picture Mr Oswald saying, 'Well, I went up to the second floor for a coke, see, then a cop came in and put a gun in my gut, then he and Mr Truly took off up the stairs, then I went through the second-floor office and a lady told me the President had been shot, then I went down to the first floor to have my lunch, then I decided to pop outside to catch the Presidential parade'.

Talk about reaching, Mr Mytton!  :D

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you:

How would you explain the fact that there is a dark strip down Mr Lovelady's right side in Wiegman despite the fact that he was nowhere near the shadow cast by the western column of the entranceway?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2019, 05:27:37 AM »
As late as 12/23 a DPD evidence report has Baker running into LHO on the stairway on the third or fourth floor.


IOW--6. For some reason Truly just got a wild hair up his backside to report Oswald [complete with address] 'missing'.--7. The FBI has this bullet that was found -location confirmed and ballistics analyzed rocketfire! 8. FIBERS coulda-mighta--been linked to the rifle 9. Mrs Harvey Lee Oswald huh? But not Marina? :D 10. How did Willy Fritzo's guys find the alleged location of the BY fakes so quickly? Maybe they were there before hand? All of the above discovered before a Nov 23rd report was typed up :-\ I wish I could have had Henry Wade's phone line tapped back then and recorded for posterity.
 
I would really really like GC to post the FIRST FIVE items on that cover-up list [page 1] if he will. Is there a document#?

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What does Baker noting that the LHO he saw at the DPD homocide office was wearing different clothes than when he ran into him in the TSBD mean?
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Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; all I can remember it was in my recollection of it it was a light brown jacket.
Mr. BELIN - Are you referring to this Exhibit 150 as being similar to the jacket or similar to the shirt that you saw or, if not, similar to either one?
Mr. BAKER - Well, it would be similar in color to it--I assume it was a jacket, it was hanging out. Now, I was looking at his face and I wasn't really paying any attention. After Mr. Truly said he knew him, so I didn't pay any attention to him, so I just turned and went on. 
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 Mr. BELIN - Officer Baker, I believe you testified that you later saw Lee Harvey Oswald at the police station of the homicide office, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - That is correct, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Was this later on that same day?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, it was.
Mr. BELIN - Is there anything else about his clothes that you can remember or his dress that you haven't talked about here?
Mr. BAKER - No, sir; I can't.
Mr. DULLES - Do you recall whether or not he was wearing the same clothes, did he appear to you the same when you saw him in the police station as when you saw him in the lunchroom?
Mr. BAKER - Actually just looking at him, he looked like he didn't have the same thing on.
Mr. BELIN - He looked as though he did not have the same thing on?
Mr. BAKER - He looked like he did not have the same on.

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2019, 06:09:16 AM »
Have you actually read Hosty's note, all Hosty says is that Oswald went out to watch the P.Parade and we know Oswald went outside a few minutes later and would have seen part of the "stalled" P.Parade.
A President's Parade is more than 1 car!

JohnM

    Your "few minutes" for the JFK Motorcade to exit Dealey Plaza would alter the currently accepted time lines of several assassination Films, Photos, as well as the individuals captured in those images. It was inevitable that You would eventually realize that these accepted time lines are Not legit.