Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #252 on: August 30, 2025, 12:06:21 AM »
The key point is that Roy Truly was running ahead of Baker on the stairs, that Truly did not see or hear anyone on the stairs when he reached the second-floor landing, and that Baker said that he saw Oswald through the window of the foyer door.

Maybe Oswald passed Truly on the stairs and Truly, recognizing Oswald as one of his workers, thought nothing of it.

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If Oswald had gone through the second-floor foyer door before Truly reached the top of the stairs, he would have been several feet beyond the door by the time Baker reached the landing and thus would not have been visible to Baker through the window.

Unless, of course, he heard Truly and Baker coming up the stairs and, sipping on his bought-before-the-assassination bottle of Coca-Cola (not his favorite soft drink, but the only one that was available in the Second-floor lunchroom and therefore necessary for him to buy in advance as a "prop") hung out by the window to see who it was.

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And, if Oswald had entered the door "only a second or two" before Baker reached the top of the stairwell, as the WC claimed, then Truly could not have missed seeing him.

The WC was basically guessing on how long it took Truly and Baker to reach the second floor.

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Truly told the WC that he had already started up the stairs to the third floor when he noticed that Baker was no longer running behind him. Truly also said there was slightly more distance between him and Baker on the second floor than there was on the first floor. So, it is reasonable to assume that Truly gained a view of the second-floor landing a minimum of 2 seconds before Baker did. Truly's account suggests that Baker was beginning to tire on his way up the stairs. (This is understandable, given the fact that Baker had been running very fast virtually every second after he got off his bike.) Baker himself said that when he arrived to the landing and began to scan it, Truly "had already started around the bend to come to the next elevation going up" (3 H 255).

Point being?

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Thus, if Oswald had gone through the foyer door "a second or two" before Baker spotted him, Truly could not possibly have missed seeing Oswald coming off the stairs, or approaching the door, or starting to open the door.

Neither the WC nor you know for sure how many seconds before Baker spotted him Oswald had gone through the foyer (why not call it the vestibule?) door.

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Clearly, Oswald had already gone through the foyer door well before Truly reached the second-floor landing, which is further proof that he could not have been on the sixth floor during the shooting.

How so?

Do you know exactly how long it took Oswald to come down from the sixth floor with his "prop" bottle of Coca-Cola, and how long it took Truly to reach the second floor?

Didn't think so.


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Baker encountered Oswald in the second-floor lunchroom, and Oswald had a coke in his hand when Baker entered the lunchroom because Oswald had come down from the sixth floor at least 15 minutes earlier.

Did the self-described Marxist and former Marine sharpshooter walk past the machine on the first floor that sold his favorite soft drink, Dr. Pepper, and go up to the second-floor lunchroom to buy a bottle of his second-favorite (or third-favorite, or . . . ) soft drink, Coca-Cola?

Is that it, Comrade Griffith?

LOL!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2025, 12:08:28 AM by Tom Graves »