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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #380 on: November 11, 2019, 01:22:05 AM »
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Yes....Unless you can PROVE that Brewer saw Lee Oswald enter the theater....You're simply assuming.....

I'd accept your statement IF Brewer KNEW  Lee Oswald......  So do you have any information that Brewer knew and recognized Lee Oswald??

Tell us why the shoe salesman would have to know the name of the funny-looking guy he saw in his store window--and followed to TT--at that point. Brewer himself testified that the guy was the one he saw at his store.

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #380 on: November 11, 2019, 01:22:05 AM »

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #381 on: November 11, 2019, 01:47:12 AM »
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Tell us why the shoe salesman would have to know the name of the funny-looking guy he saw in his store window--and followed to TT--at that point. Brewer himself testified that the guy was the one he saw at his store.

Yes.... And Helen Markham said that Lee was the man that she saw shoot Tippit, and she knew that because when she saw him in a line up with three other men who couldn't possibly  pass for 23 years old, she felt cold chills run all over her.... Soooo ...How did Brewer KNOW that Lee Oswald was the man?....He'd been through the theater twice looking for the man and he had to have seen Lee Oswald ...but when he reported back to Julia Postal he told her after looking for the man " he just wasn't there"...

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #382 on: November 11, 2019, 03:00:24 AM »
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Yes....Unless you can PROVE that Brewer saw Lee Oswald enter the theater....You're simply assuming.....

Brewer didn’t even claim that he saw someone enter the theater.

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« Reply #382 on: November 11, 2019, 03:00:24 AM »

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #383 on: November 11, 2019, 07:58:53 AM »
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Brewer didn’t even claim that he saw someone enter the theater.

John,

Should Brewer have said, "I watched him walk into the recessed area in front of the theater where he disappeared from my view. When I got there a few seconds later, he wasn't there, so I assumed he'd gone inside"?

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #384 on: November 11, 2019, 02:05:54 PM »
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John,

Should Brewer have said, "I watched him walk into the recessed area in front of the theater where he disappeared from my view. When I got there a few seconds later, he wasn't there, so I assumed he'd gone inside"?

--  MWT  ;)

When I got there a few seconds later, he wasn't there, so I assumed he'd gone inside"?


Brewer didn't go immediately to the theater.....He went back inside his shoe store and told some associates that he was going to the theater and was going to lock the shoe store.....  For all Brewer knew the man could have left the foyer of the theater and never actually entered the theater.... Recall that Butch Burroughs said that nobody came into the theater ......Burroughs was right there and he saw nobody enter....

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #385 on: November 11, 2019, 02:51:24 PM »
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Tell us why the shoe salesman would have to know the name of the funny-looking guy he saw in his store window--and followed to TT--at that point. Brewer himself testified that the guy was the one he saw at his store.

When??  When?? I say WHEN....Did Brewer first identify  Lee Oswald as the man that he said was window shopping at his Shoe store?

Brewer went through the theater( twice)  searching for the man and he then told Julia Postal that man was not in the theater. .....  Brewer couldn't have missed seeing Lee Oswald when he searched the theater and yet he told Postal that the man who had ducked into the theater foyer was NOT in the theater.

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #386 on: November 11, 2019, 04:05:03 PM »
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When I got there a few seconds later, he wasn't there, so I assumed he'd gone inside"?


Brewer didn't go immediately to the theater.....He went back inside his shoe store and told some associates that he was going to the theater and was going to lock the shoe store.....  For all Brewer knew the man could have left the foyer of the theater and never actually entered the theater.... Recall that Butch Burroughs said that nobody came into the theater ......Burroughs was right there and he saw nobody enter....

Exactly. Although I don’t think he locked the shoe store. He left it in the good hands of his “IBM men” who hung out there.

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #387 on: November 11, 2019, 04:39:33 PM »
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Brewer didn’t even claim that he saw someone enter the theater.

Brewer didn’t even claim that he saw someone enter the theater.

True....  in 1996 Brewer told Ian Griggs that after the man who was window shopping at his shoe store left his foyer he ( Brewer) stepped out onto the sidewalk to see where the man was going. Brewer said that he saw the man enter the foyer of the theater and then he went back inside his store to lock up.   A couple of minutes later he asked "Julie" if she had sold the man a ticket....and she replied"what man?"   She had been distracted by the police cars and never even noticed a man in the foyer.   And Furthermore Butch Burroughs said that nobody had entered the theater during the few minutes prior to Brewer bursting into the lobby acting like Dick Tracy....


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« Reply #388 on: November 11, 2019, 04:45:25 PM »
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Exactly. Although I don’t think he locked the shoe store. He left it in the good hands of his “IBM men” who hung out there.

Brewer told Ian Griggs that he returned to the shoe store and his IBM friends had locked up the store....   ( I don't believe it....He had been gone from the store for only a couple of minutes, and his pals locked up the store??   Did they have the keys to the store??   )  I've read somewhere that Brewer said that he returned to the store and put up a "closed" sign and locked the store......

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #389 on: November 11, 2019, 05:09:45 PM »
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Exactly. Although I don’t think he locked the shoe store. He left it in the good hands of his “IBM men” who hung out there.

One of the most incredible parts of Brewer's tale concerns the size of Lee Oswald....  Brewer described him as a "little guy" of about 5' 9" and 150 pounds ...And Brewer told ian Griggs that had known officer Nick Mc Donald for about six months, and Mc Donald "was no little Guy"  ....( we all seen photos of Mc Donald so we know that he was at least 4 inches taller than Lee Oswald, and outweighed him by at least a hundred pounds ...And yet Brewer tells us that the scrawny little guy provoked a fight with the not so jolly giant, by punching at him when Mc Donald confronted Lee in the theater.   Watta whopper!....  Brewer himself said that Lee was telling everybody in the theater that he was not resisting arrest....   If Lee had punched at McDonald that most certainly would have constituted "resisting arrest"... and Lee would probably been unconscious and unable to protest that he wasn't resisting arrest....  This bit a pugilism is nothing but a figment of Brewer's imagination..... 

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