Tippit Shooting, 1:15

[Bill Brown]

How is a witness two blocks away seeing a man with a gun supposed to know that the man killed somebody?

Which witness are you referring to who was "two blocks away seeing a man with a gun"?

[Bill Brown]

Where did I say that? If I did, I must have made a mistake, because I don't recall you ever said that.

You've said it more than once over the past few days.

In the past, Bill Brown argued that a time stamp card from the funeral home at Jefferson showed that the call was received at 1:18.
Now he seems to go with 1:18 as the time Tippit arrived at the hospital, 1,5 miles away....

[Martin Weidmann]

You've said it more than once over the past few days.

Ah, so it's you who is cherry picking and misrepresenting what I said;

I replied to a post by Zeon Mason;

I maybe mistaken, but I think I remember Bill Brown having a thread many years back, in which Bill suggested the 1:15pm time was the physicians ESTIMATE of the time of death made, and that the actual time of arrival of the ambulance to the hospital emergency room was 1:18pm based on some other record

my - complete - reply was;

I maybe mistaken, but I think I remember Bill Brown having a thread many years back, in which Bill suggested the 1:15pm time was the physicians ESTIMATE of the time of death made, and that the actual time of arrival of the ambulance to the hospital emergency room was 1:18pm based on some other record

I remember that Brown argued that the ambulance couldn't have been at the hospital at 1:15 because a time stamp card of the funeral home allegedly documented the departure of the ambulance from Jefferson as having taken place at 1:18. The problem with that argument is that nobody has ever been able to produce that time stamp card and the only reference to it being made (as far as I know) is a rather vague statement of a funeral home employee to the HSCA.

There's also another indicator that the ambulance's arrival at the hospital at 1:18 doesn't do Brown any favor. When you trace the fastest route between 10th street and the hospital on North Beckley, on Google map, the estimated drive time is 7 minutes. Had the ambulance arrived at 1:18, it would mean that it must have picked up Tippit - at best - 7 minutes earlier, at 1:11. Obviously, that's a far cry from the ambulance leaving the funeral home at 1:18. On the other hand, it is within a reasonable margin of error (of 3 minutes or so) in the Markham/Bowley/Ambulance/ Davenport scenario.

In any event; let's not forget that Markham saw Tippit being shot prior to the arrival of Bowley (at 1:10) and Bowley saw the ambulance pick up Tippit just after he made his radio call. Combined, this information means that Tippit must have been shot somewhere between 1:06 and 1:10.

You then replied to my post;

The hospital was only a mile away.  Seven minutes?  Hardly.

I then replied to a post by John Mytton about the speed of ambulances and sirens;

Sure they do, depending on traffic..... So, what is your point?

In the past, Bill Brown argued that a time stamp card from the funeral home at Jefferson showed that the call was received at 1:18.
Now he seems to go with 1:18 as the time Tippit arrived at the hospital, 1,5 miles away....

"Now he seems to go with 1:18 as the time Tippit arrived at the hospital" is a far cry from misquoting you..

I can not misquote you when you never said it. So why do you say I lie, when in fact I have argued that Zeon's recollection was wrong?

I see you are still playing word games rather than dealing with the content of posts. I seriously doubt that our renewed conversation will have a long life if that continues.

[Bill Brown]

Ah, so it's you who is cherry picking and misrepresenting what I said;

I replied to a post by Zeon Mason;

my - complete - reply was;

You then replied to my post;

I then replied to a post by John Mytton about the speed of ambulances and sirens;

"Now he seems to go with 1:18 as the time Tippit arrived at the hospital" is a far cry from misquoting you..

I can not misquote you when you never said it. So why do you say I lie, when in fact I have argued that Zeon's recollection was wrong?

I see you are still playing word games rather than dealing with the content of posts. I seriously doubt that our renewed conversation may well be short lived if that continues.

You said it more than once, asshole.  You were wrong each time.

[Martin Weidmann]

You said it more than once, asshole.  You were wrong each time.

I never said you said it, jerk

You're still the same dishonest waste of time I have come to know.... 

.

[Bill Chapman]

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

..... or use oversimplified meaningless ridicule

Lee Harvey Occam-Oswald

[Bill Brown]

I never said you said it, jerk

This time you are the one who is wrong.

And the discussion is over again..... I shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt, you are still as much a jackass as you were when we first discussed a topic.

You did say it, more than once... and therefore, I am not simply playing word games or cherry picking. 

In the past, Bill Brown argued that a time stamp card from the funeral home at Jefferson showed that the call was received at 1:18.
Now he seems to go with 1:18 as the time Tippit arrived at the hospital, 1,5 miles away....

...or even his current suggestion that Tippit's ambulance arrived at the hospital, 1,5 miles away, at 1:18....

Question...

How can you tell when Weidmann is beat?

Answer...

He falls back on the "word games" accusation.