Tippit Shooting, 1:15

[Bill Chapman]

In unfair and biased lineups, by people who saw no crime committed.

Judge Johnny Court Now in Session

Callaway: I heard shots and saw Oswald from 12-15 feet away, carrying a gun
Judge Johnny: Did you see him shoot anybody?
Callaway: No
Judge Johnny: Case dismissed. Mr. Oswald, you can go.

[Martin Weidmann]

Judge Johnny Court Now in Session

Callaway: I heard shots and saw Oswald from 12-15 feet away, carrying a gun
Judge Johnny: Did you see him shoot anybody?
Callaway: No
Judge Johnny: Case dismissed. Mr. Oswald, you can go.

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

..... or use oversimplified meaningless ridicule

[Bill Brown]

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

..... or use oversimplified meaningless ridicule

Based on my observations, that is exactly what YOU do... over and over again.  I've seen it.

[Bill Brown]

Nice fetish, should bring you may hours of joy.

 

Original research.

[Martin Weidmann]

Based on my observations, that is exactly what YOU do... over and over again.  I've seen it.

Which only tells us something about the quality of your "observations"....

Care to discuss the Markham/Bowley/Davenport/Methodist hospital timeline and tell me where I am wrong?

[Bill Brown]

Which only tells us something about the quality of your "observations"....

Care to discuss the Markham/Bowley/Davenport/Methodist hospital timeline and tell me where I am wrong?

First, explain to me why you're misquoting me.  I've never said that the ambulance arrived at Methodist at 1:18.  Why are you attributing that to me?

[Martin Weidmann]

First, explain to me why you're misquoting me.  I've never said that the ambulance arrived at Methodist at 1:18.  Why are you attributing that to me?

Where did I say that? If I did, I must have made a mistake, because I don't recall you ever said that.

You said that a time stamp card of the funeral home shows that the call for an ambulance was received at 1:18 PM.
You were going to find that time stamp card but you never produced it so I guess you did not find it.

So, let's (again) try to go back to basics;

Can you come up with a plausible scenario for Markham still being at 10th/Patton at 1:14 or 1:15 when she testified she left home "a little after 1" and the one block walk from her home on 9th street to the corner of 10th street and Patton would have taken her only 2, perhaps 3 minutes. Markham estimated in her testimony that she took the 1.15 bus to work every day. And before you go there, yes I know that according to the bus schedule (which btw nobody has ever been able to show me) there was a bus at 1.12 and one at 1.22. It actually doesn't matter which bus Markham was talking about, because a walk of two blocks to the bus stop would have taken her no more than 6 minutes. So, if she left home "a little after 1" she would have easily been at the bus stop on Jefferson at around 1.15 and thus not at 10th/Patton. In other words, Tippit must have been shot earlier than 1.15, most likely around 1.06, because otherwise Markham could not have witnessed it.

The same thing goes for Bowley. He arrived after Tippit was killed. In his affidavit he said he picked up his daughter at R.L. Thornton School in Singing Hills at "about 12:55". School bells, in my experience, have a tendency to ring at the correct time every day! Now, let's also not forget that, after picking up his daughter, Bowley was also going to pick up his wife from work, to go on a family holiday and thus had every reason to be on time and be aware of the time! The drive from the school to 10th/Patton is about 7 miles long and takes roughly 13 minutes, depending on the route, making it absolutely possible and plausible for him to arrive at 10th street at 1.10 pm, like he said he did in his affidavit.

Bowley also said in his affidavit that he saw the ambulance arrive and pick up Tippit's body just after his radio call (which he made within a minute or so after arriving on the scene). Hospital records show that Tippit was declared DOA at 1:15 at Methodist Hospital, on North Beckley, about 1,5 miles from the scene of the crime. DPD officer Davenport says in his report that, while en route, he saw and followed the ambulance to the hospital where he witnessed Tippit being declared dead at 1:15.

Markham's and Bowley's timelines alone justify, IMO, the conclusion that Tippit was in fact shot before 1:10 pm, which makes it nearly impossible for Oswald to have been there. But perhaps you can provide a plausible scenario for these two timelines to be wrong...? I'll wait and see, but I won't hold my breath.

Care to explain how this evidence relates to the DPD dispatcher's time calls from clocks which, according to Bowles, could be two minutes ahead or behind "official time" (whatever that means) and recorded on voice actived devices?