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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #931 on: December 07, 2019, 05:04:28 PM »
Again, timing is key: everyone is looking in the direction of Houston Street. This is a big moment----------------the most powerful man in the world is about to pass by!

It's like someone sidling into their seat in the row behind you just as the dramatic opening scene of the movie is starting. You don't turn around, you could care less who they are.

I'm placing Mr Frazier where Wiegman places him--------------a little in front of the metal frame at the non-opening side of the door:



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    You claim Oswald was In Front of Frazier.  With the landing being LESS than 4 feet deep, how does Oswald manage to move (R) and Forward and Only be standing in front of Frazier? The avg stride of a person is roughly 2.5 feet.  This is why having Lovelady, Shelley, Frazier, etc + OSWALD ALL on that shallow landing and ALL in front of the door does Not fit the minimal depth of the landing. Plus, you have No One seeing Oswald. If some of these individuals were standing on the top step closest to the landing, your scenario would be plausible. Everybody standing on that shallow landing, roughly in front of the door, and Oswald Moving (R) and Forward yet going unnoticed just doesn't FIT in more ways than 1.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #932 on: December 07, 2019, 05:12:48 PM »
    You claim Oswald was In Front of Frazier.  With the landing being LESS than 4 feet deep, how does Oswald manage to move (R) and Forward and Only be standing in front of Frazier?

I don't 'claim' that Mr Oswald is in front of Mr Frazier, I see it in Wiegman.

Your space argument has no basis. As Mr Oswald steps out, everyone else on the landing (bar Mr Frazier) is in front of him, at or near the edge. Mr Oswald does not then stride across the landing, he sidles. Ample room on that landing for all this to happen-----------and no reason for anyone other than Mr Frazier to notice him. But in the pretty unlikely event that one or two other people do happen to notice him, then they are told afterwards to shut up about it.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #933 on: December 07, 2019, 05:21:38 PM »
Don't give up your day job.

And what's truly "Mytton"-esque is making a gif with two photos, drawing lines on it, and just declaring that they match (or don't match).

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« Reply #934 on: December 07, 2019, 05:24:41 PM »
Oswald killed kennedy.  Get over it, folks.  Go from there, with help or no (especially with the voices in his tiny little marxist head).  How could marina stand him?  What a nightmare he must've been in bed, Ms. Porter.  Just my opinion. No clean sources.  that means HUMINT

Maybe if you stomp your feet when you say it, it will become more believable.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #935 on: December 07, 2019, 05:52:00 PM »
I don't 'claim' that Mr Oswald is in front of Mr Frazier, I see it in Wiegman.

Your space argument has no basis. As Mr Oswald steps out, everyone else on the landing (bar Mr Frazier) is in front of him, at or near the edge. Mr Oswald does not then stride across the landing, he sidles. Ample room on that landing for all this to happen-----------and no reason for anyone other than Mr Frazier to notice him. But in the pretty unlikely event that one or two other people do happen to notice him, then they are told afterwards to shut up about it.

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   Ridiculous! Other than Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly, who "slides"? What's next? Oswald "moon walking" across the landing? These are the ridiculous lengths to which you are having to go to in order to have Oswald go unnoticed.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #936 on: December 07, 2019, 05:53:15 PM »
And what's truly "Mytton"-esque is making a gif with two photos, drawing lines on it, and just declaring that they match (or don't match).

   Generally the same stuff Mytton used to belittle Paul Ernst for doing.

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« Reply #937 on: December 07, 2019, 05:57:25 PM »
   Ridiculous! Other than Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly, who "slides"? What's next? Oswald "moon walking" across the landing? These are the ridiculous lengths to which you are having to go to in order to have Oswald go unnoticed.

I wrote 'sidles', Mr Storing, not 'slides'. Apology accepted!  Thumb1: