The "Domino Room Alibi"

[Colin Crow]

For David....The importance of the Belknap seizure as a timestamp.

Mr. SPECTER - Mr. Rowland, will you recount as precisely and as specifically as you can, the exact conversation between you and your wife from the time you first noticed this man until your conversation about the man concluded, indicating what you said and what she said in language as closely as you can recollect it.
Mr. ROWLAND - That is a whopper.
I am almost sure I told her or asked her, did she want to see a Secret Service agent. She said, "Where," and I said, "In the building there," and at that time she told me to look--I remember what she was looking at. Right directly across from us in this plaza in front of the pond there was a colored boy that had an epileptic fit or something of this type right then, and she pointed this out to me and there were a couple of officers there and a few moments later they called an ambulance, this is what she told me to look at then, and we looked at this for a short period of time, and then I told her to look in the building, the second floor from the top and on that end, the two open windows, is I think what I said, and I said, "He is not there now."

Rowland explained that his wife Barbara was watching a man having a seizure across the road. The man's name was Jerry Belknap. They watched it for a minute or so and only then looked for the gunman. Barbara (or Arnold) did not look immediately to the SW window and perhaps a minute or so he was gone from that position. The call from police at the scene to dispatch over the police radio was placed between 12.18 and 12.19, likely closer to the latter. Dispatch contacts ambulance (606) who is at Harwood and Cedar Springs at 12.20, about 1 mile from Elm and Houston. The ambulance reported they were on the scene at 12.24 and then on their way to Parkland after 12.25.

[Walt Cakebread]

Previous analysis showed about 10 seconds per floor.

Thanks, Colin..... IOW....It took Jarman and Norman approximately 50 seconds to go from the first floor to fifth floor.    Which means they were on the first floor at about 12:27 or 12:26....  ( Jarman said they arrived on the fifth floor at 12:28 and just a couple of minutes before the motorcade arrived. ) 

[Walt Cakebread]

     If Oswald had descended from the 6th floor intending to exit the TSBD, he would have used the other door inside the vestibule. That other door would have placed him in a hallway which led to the 2nd Floor stairs near the TSBD front door. Oswald could have remained in motion, gone down the hallway, descended the stairs, and walked right out the TSBD front door. His allegedly choosing to corner himself inside the 2nd floor Lunch Room makes absolutely no sense.

An Astute observation!!....   I completely agree Royell.....

[David Von Pein]

To Colin....

Okay. Thanks for the info re: Belknap.

[David Von Pein]

Jarman said they arrived on the fifth floor at 12:28 and just a couple of minutes before the motorcade arrived.

Where/when did he say that? Certainly not in his WC session.

Plus, there's a need for some more time to pass in order for BRW to join J&N on the 5th floor.....just as James Jarman told the WC here (which is a further indication that Jarman's "12:25 or 12:28" estimate for when they got on the elevator to go up to the fifth floor was not entirely accurate):

Mr. BALL - Did somebody join you then?
Mr. JARMAN - Yes, sir; a few minutes later.
Mr. BALL - Who joined you?
Mr. JARMAN - Bonnie Ray Williams.

[Walt Cakebread]

Where/when did he say that? Certainly not in his WC session.

Plus, there's a need for some more time to pass in order for BRW to join J&N on the 5th floor.....just as James Jarman told the WC here (which is a further indication that Jarman's "12:25 to 12:28" estimate for when they got on the elevator to go up to the fifth floor was not entirely accurate):

Mr. BALL - Did somebody join you then?
Mr. JARMAN - Yes, sir; a few minutes later.
Mr. BALL - Who joined you?
Mr. JARMAN - Bonnie Ray Williams.

"A few minutes" is nothing but a vague reference to a short period of time...  Your desperation is hangin out a country mile.

[Colin Crow]

The Gunman on the Sixth Floor at 12.15

ROWLAND - We got back there 14 after, I noticed the time on my watch, and the Hertz time clock I noticed was about a minute later.
Mr. SPECTER - Where was the Hertz time clock located?
Mr. ROWLAND - That was on top of the school depository building.
Mr. SPECTER - Was your watch synchronized with the Hertz up on top.
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes; I always set it by the same clock whenever I pass it. I pass it coming into town and I set my watch at that time.

Mr. SPECTER - before you go on, let me ask you at which time was this on your return to position "V"?
Mr. ROWLAND - This was 12:15.
Mr. SPECTER - All right; proceed to tell us what you saw and heard at about that time?
Mr. ROWLAND - We were discussing, as I stated, the different security precautions, I mean it was a very important person who was coming and we were aware of the policemen around everywhere, and especially in positions where they would be able to watch crowds. We talked momentarily of the incidents with Mr. Stevenson, and the one before that with Mr. Johnson, and this being in mind we were more or less security conscious. We looked and at that time I noticed  the sixth floor of the building that there was a man back from the window, not hanging out the window. He was standing and holding a rifle....