The "Domino Room Alibi"

[Martin Weidmann]

As I asked Ray Mitcham weeks ago (which he totally ignored), please provide me with some "out of context" examples on my webpages. If I find that I agree with you, I'll do my best to add more "context" (if possible).

Regarding the "stacked deck" accusation....

Do you think that ANYONE who runs a "conspiracy" website lets an LNer come out the "winner" in any of their articles? Get real.

Hmmm, back to this again..... pfffff

Regarding the "stacked deck" accusation....

Do you think that ANYONE who runs a "conspiracy" website lets an LNer come out the "winner" in any of their articles? Get real.

So, just because some other site does it, it's ok for you to do it as well, is that what you are saying, David?

When we discussed this topic earlier, I did have a look at some of my posts you had used on your website and although I couldn't really remember which post it was that made me angry about the lack of context years ago, I did notice something else that bothers me. Even when you do quote a conversation in several posts verbatim, you seem to have a tendency to return to that conversation at a later date and add on (one sided) information without the other person having the ability to counter those remarks. So, yes, I can relate very well to Bettina Krotsch's "stacked deck" comment.

It's actually a shame that you resort to doing this because it comes across as a sign of weakness and it does your credibility no good. IMO only people who can not "win" the argument in a normal way use these kinds of tricks to somehow prevail.

[John Iacoletti]

In those old clunky freight elevators? I have no idea. But probably longer than you or Walt think.

And yet Oswald was able to “assure hisself that he hit his mark”, slowly step down out of sight, wipe the rifle down, hide the rifle, move a box over the top of the gap, and then make it down 8 staircases and landings without being seen or heard by 12 or so people along the way, all in 75-90 seconds.

[David Von Pein]

I did notice something else that bothers me. Even when you do quote a conversation in several posts verbatim, you seem to have a tendency to return to that conversation at a later date and add on (one sided) information without the other person having the ability to counter those remarks.

Please cite an example of such a thing occurring.

Plus, why wouldn't the other person have the "ability to counter those remarks" even if I did "return to that conversation at a later date"? If it started out as a public "conversation" on a FORUM site, then why can't the other person reply? Please elaborate on why such a reply is impossible from "the other person".

[David Von Pein]

And yet Oswald was able to “assure hisself that he hit his mark”, slowly step down out of sight, wipe the rifle down, hide the rifle, move a box over the top of the gap, and then make it down 8 staircases and landings without being seen or heard by 12 or so people along the way, all in 75-90 seconds.

Yep. He sure did. It can be done in under one minute. The HSCA (at a "running" pace) was able to get from the SN on the sixth floor to the 2nd-floor lunchroom in only 46 seconds. [See HSCA Record 180-10115-10004, dated September 19, 1977, pages 11 and 12.]

[Colin Crow]

In those old clunky freight elevators? I have no idea. But probably longer than you or Walt think.

Previous analysis showed about 10 seconds per floor.

[Alan Hardaker]

And yet Oswald was able to “assure hisself that he hit his mark”, slowly step down out of sight, wipe the rifle down, hide the rifle, move a box over the top of the gap, and then make it down 8 staircases and landings without being seen or heard by 12 or so people along the way, all in 75-90 seconds.

If the room height is 2800mm.Then it is normally 14 steps.In the TSBD the stairwell was I believe split into two sets of 6/7 steps, going from one floor to the next.This was common in public building and is often built that way for safety reasons. So that in this case the 8 staircases you are referring to is 8 sets of 6/7 steps.

A fit and agile person could decend these steps in 20/30 seconds quite easily. I can skip down 14 steps in under 5 seconds without to much bother.So I suggest your post was a tad misleading as it is only the 20/30 seconds Oswald needed to avoid the other TSBD employees.

[Royell Storing]

Yep. He sure did. It can be done in under one minute. The HSCA (at a "running" pace) was able to get from the SN on the sixth floor to the 2nd-floor lunchroom in only 46 seconds. [See HSCA Record 180-10115-10004, dated September 19, 1977, pages 11 and 12.]

     If Oswald had descended from the 6th floor intending to exit the TSBD, he would have used the other door inside the vestibule. That other door would have placed him in a hallway which led to the 2nd Floor stairs near the TSBD front door. Oswald could have remained in motion, gone down the hallway, descended the stairs, and walked right out the TSBD front door. His allegedly choosing to corner himself inside the 2nd floor Lunch Room makes absolutely no sense.