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Offline Michael Carney

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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #217 on: July 31, 2020, 06:46:49 PM »
 Jerry, you are right. I read somewhere that it was an old Sicilian mafia technique; set up a patsy, kill the patsy with someone unacknowledged about the plot and eventually kill him. There is a very interesting book about Dorothy Killgallen called "Dorothy Killgallen - The reporter that knew too much" about her interviewing Jack Ruby during his trial and her going down to New Orleans digging up information. She was going to go down a second time but she was murdered before she could. The night she was murdered all of her notes about Jack Ruby went missing.

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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #218 on: August 02, 2020, 01:44:12 AM »
Jerry, you are right. I read somewhere that it was an old Sicilian mafia technique; set up a patsy, kill the patsy with someone unacknowledged about the plot and eventually kill him. There is a very interesting book about Dorothy Killgallen called "Dorothy Killgallen - The reporter that knew too much" about her interviewing Jack Ruby during his trial and her going down to New Orleans digging up information. She was going to go down a second time but she was murdered before she could. The night she was murdered all of her notes about Jack Ruby went missing.

I always was told that Ms. Kilgallen had accidentally overdosed on booze & pills, so her being murdered struck me as a weird conspiracy theory, but apparently her death is mysterious and indeed her JFK assassination files vanished. I don't know what a 'podcast' is as I was born in the Stone Age, but this one is interesting, but long:


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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #219 on: August 02, 2020, 04:02:41 AM »
Part 2 of the podcast with possible explanations for her unexpected death:


Offline Mike Orr

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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #220 on: August 03, 2020, 09:53:43 PM »
Ruby hung out with a notorious crowd and for the lack of a better situation he was told to take out LHO before LHO had a chance to talk ! Who knows , maybe Ruby was a ' Manchurian Candidate ' ! This was not the first time for a person to be duped into being the Patsy ! It seems that Ruby was put in a no win situation for himself to be able to shoot LHO . The Warren Commission would not take Ruby back to Washington so Ruby could talk ! Ruby might have spilled the beans on what actually happened . Who knows and why was JFK buried so quick . Killed on Friday and buried on Monday . Sounds like JFK was put in the ground awfully quick .

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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #221 on: August 04, 2020, 12:32:31 AM »
 I did some checking because I thought it was kind of quick after you mentioned it but found it’s not unusual to be buried within 3 days after dying. Ike, LBJ, and JFK, 3 days. McArthur, 4 days. Regan 6 days. All of them lied in state for 2 days.

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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #222 on: August 04, 2020, 12:56:14 AM »
I believe Oswald was supposed to be murdered by his co-conspirators prior to his run-in with Tippit.

Oswald’s arrest wasn’t part of the original plan. Once he was in police custody, Jack Ruby was one of the few underworld-connected people who were able to get close enough to take him out.

Ruby wasn’t an ideal assassin but he was in debt and had Cancer...

Belief is something one has in the absence of evidence.

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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #223 on: August 11, 2020, 08:16:49 PM »
"They" also had no idea if he had already talked after nearly 48 hours in custody.
 A bullet to the stomach, giving Oswald a 90% chance of survival  and guaranteeing Oswald would spill the beans after likely surviving the attempt on his life makes no sense.
Heres a study of 300 patients with abdominal gunshot wounds.
"The overall survival rate for the series was 88.3%; however, if only the 226 patients without vascular injuries are considered, the survival rate was 97.3%."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1493651/
The first mob hit in history with a single shot to the stomach using a .38 where the assassin brought his dog with him to the hit and left it in the car outside.
 Mafia hit men do not shoot people in the stomach once with a handgun.
Ted Shields fails to provide statistics concerning Mafia hits or his expertise on that matter.
Ruby kills Oswald with a single shot from a .38 but Oswald should have had a 98% chance of survival?
Well chock that up to another coincidence [of which there are thousands]
Mr Shields also believes that it is news reporter Jack Ruby sitting in the police station---
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2564.msg88350.html#msg88350
Mr Shields also believes that BOTH Seth Kantor and Wilma Tice were lying about seeing Ruby at Parkland but heartily believes that Honest Jack Ruby was truthful concerning his whereabouts.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2334.msg75731.html#msg75731
Which led me to wonder...What about Sheba?... and Jack leaving his favorite pup in the car while he walked down the street and down into the basement to blast Oswald?
The Commission guys brought in the parking attendant just for that purpose it seems...
Probably knowing that the word of the Dallas police detectives sent to search Ruby's Olds may not hold up to public scrutiny.
But even the testimony of the parking lot attendant did not seem so certain--
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Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Ruby did not park by the month there?
Mr. JACKSON. No, sir.
Mr. HUBERT. When you came up and saw this car did you put a ticket on it?
Mr. JACKSON. I put a ticket on it.
Mr. HUBERT. Were there any other cars parked in the lot?
Mr. JACKSON. Yes, sir; about, oh, I guess about six--about six more besides his, five or six more, I disremember.
Mr. HUBERT. Now, and you put a ticket on the car, did you notice whether the car was open, or closed?
Mr. JACKSON. No, sir; I didn't. I just looked at the car and the key was gone. The keys wasn't in the switch, and I just got a ticket, just stamped the ticket and put it on the windshield.
Mr. HUBERT. Was there a dog in the car?
Mr. JACKSON. Yes, sir; I think so. It was--yes, it was a dog in the car.
Mr. HUBERT. Was there any window open so that the dog could get some air?
Mr. JACKSON. I never looked whether there was or not.
How humane  :-\
What breed of dog...wasn't asked.
Mr Ruby's Dachshund might have been friendly...wasn't asked.
Could have barked...wasn't asked.
Could have been thirsty..wasn't asked. 
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Mr. HUBERT. Did they do anything with this dog, that you know of?
Mr. JACKSON. I don't know. They took the car to the pound.
Mr. HUBERT. What happened to the dog? Was it still in the car when they took it?
Mr. JACKSON. Yes; the dog was still in the car.
The testimony of Theodore Jackson was taken at 9:30 a.m., on April 1, 1964 [April Fools Day]
The attendant stated that he did not open the parking lot until 12 noon. Usually back then, Sundays were not especially normal operating days for parking lots.
Perhaps, maybe Mr Jackson was just told that there was a dog?