POLL. Is John Iacoletti right to separate the coupon from the envelope in CE773?

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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You're joking, right? The President was just killed so they immediately traced the rifle which led to Kleins and the Kliens microfilm led to Hidell's PO Box which was owned by Oswald, Oswald worked in the Depository building and Oswald was also seen killing Tippit, see how this works, detective work is one logical deduction one after another.
All the evidence leads to Oswald.

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You're responding to classic conspiracy thinking: evidence that points to Oswald's guilt must actually be evidence of his innocence. Why? Because it was simply too easy to gather.

The more evidence of his guilt is more evidence of his innocence.

The reason Oswald left the building so quickly, the reason he was on the run, the reason he showed no interest in the event, the reason he shot Tippit, the reason he fled into the theater was because he shot JFK. All of those obvious actions indicate flight.

No, to the conspiracy believers it indicates conspiracy to frame an innocent man.

Up is down and down is up.


Offline Jerry Freeman

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   If all of this evidence doesn't satisfy them that Oswald ordered the rifle ....
Actually...Hidell 'ordered' the rifle. Read the order again.

Offline Richard Smith

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Actually...Hidell 'ordered' the rifle. Read the order again.

Calling Roger Collins to explain the use of an alias.  LOL.  Yes, Oswald obviously would not order a rifle that he intended to use to commit murder under an alias.  Whew.  Good thing for him that he didn't have a fake ID with that name in his possession!

Offline John Iacoletti

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These are just the same lazy contrarians attempting to frame the evidence in the context of an impossible standard of proof to create false doubt.

What's lazy is arguing that someone else's standard of proof is impossible instead of admitting that you have a weak case.

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  If all of this evidence doesn't satisfy them that Oswald ordered the rifle, then what could?

The only evidence that Oswald personally ordered a (similar) rifle from Klein's is unscientific and biased handwriting "analysis" of two block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy of a 2-inch order coupon.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Calling Roger Collins to explain the use of an alias.  LOL.  Yes, Oswald obviously would not order a rifle that he intended to use to commit murder under an alias.  Whew.  Good thing for him that he didn't have a fake ID with that name in his possession!

And your evidence that Oswald ever had a fake ID with that name in his possession?

Oh, right, "cop said so".  After Oswald was dead.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Again nice try, but Waldman sighted the rifle order on the the Kleins microfilm records on the evening of the 22nd which clearly had to be before he gave the film to the FBI.

Mr. BELIN. Was this on Friday evening, November 22?
Mr. WALDMAN. On Friday evening, November 22.
Mr. BELIN. Did the FBI indicate at what time, what period that they felt you might have received this rifle originally?
Mr. WALDMAN. We were able to determine from our purchase records the date in which the rifle had been received, and they also had a record of when it had been shipped, so we knew the approximate date of receipt by us, and from that we made---let's see, we examined our microfilm records which show orders from mail order customers and related papers, and from this determined to whom the gun had been shipped by us.
Mr. BELIN. Are these microfilm records part of your customary recording of transactions of your company?
Mr. WALDMAN. Yes; they are.


Nice try, indeed.  Where does Waldman say that he personally "sighted the rifle order on the the Kleins microfilm records on the evening of the 22nd"?  Also, how did the FBI have "a record of when it had been shipped" on the evening of the 22nd?  What record?

Offline Bill Chapman

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And your evidence that Oswald ever had a fake ID with that name in his possession?

Oh, right, "cop said so".  After Oswald was dead.

Oswald: I'm innocent.
CT jury: Okay, you can go.
Oswald: [SMIRK]
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John Iacoletti dies and arrives at The Gates of Hell.
John: WOW, I did not see this coming...
Lucifer arrives, with Oswald in tow.
John: Lee, what are you doing here?
Oswald: I shot Kennedy.
John: You're lying.
Oswald: ::)
« Last Edit: July 02, 2019, 10:33:20 PM by Bill Chapman »