Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)

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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2019, 08:02:35 PM »
That's him, McNeil, with the voice, at least, looks a little like him, ty.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2019, 01:30:22 AM »
James,

How long is the full-length Robert Hughes film?

What do you mean by "at roughly 12:34-12:35 by my estimate"?

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Thomas,
Sorry it took this long to respond. I needed to first present the PergolaWallClock technique before I could answer your question. The PergolaWalllClock indicates Rober Hughes has:
 
-completed his filming on Main street
-crossed the triangular infield
-entered the north pergola's west shelter (or possibly the pergola proper near the west shelter)
–filmed his first Rail/Parking yard scene with Toni Foster etc
–moved about 45 feet to the pergola patio steps near the Zapruder pedestal to film 8 seconds of the background buildings including an eastward sweep of Elm street by 12:33-12:34 .
Hughes then moved about 75 or slightly more feet to inside the east shelter to then film Jimmy Darnell, just as Darnell finished filming the west face of the TSBD.

All three Hughes scenes could have been easily completed in 1-2 minutes. Thus my estimate of 12:34-12:35 for the Darnell clip.


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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2019, 12:06:56 AM »
McNeil seen in the light colored suit facing the camera






Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2019, 11:16:50 AM »
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James,
Underwood, too short, plus hat?
Cook himself perhaps??

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2019, 02:58:18 AM »
James,
Underwood, too short, plus hat?
Cook himself perhaps??
Barry,
I believe that is indeed Mr. Underwood. This stabilized gif shows no hat while his glasses and raincoat are evident. The above annotated frame was grabbed while Underwood was leaning (or is it bending?) into the conversation with Craig while Darnell cranks his camera spring. Don Cook is present in some of the TSBD doorway scenes, some including Howard Brennan. Cook was not wearing an overcoat or raincoat, iirc.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2019, 04:33:39 PM »
All IMHO Royell but Haygood is running up the "GK" as all three camera cars are still on Elm and yet to reach the UP, my estimate is about 1min after Z313 for that, the rush then starts immeadiatly after, with people changing directions and then like you say the buses pass have room to move and Darnell reacts to the police car siren.  It's all in the same neighborhood 70-90secs.  Ok, you know Craigs story, you know where he come from and where he went and about what general time, well what if Jimmy knew him, like Dave knew Lem and saw him running up the knoll because you know, that's Darnell's next stop and shoot point, right in Craigs face.  2mins or there about they're both in the RRY working it.  Bob Jackson too and Underwood a small time later(only no sign of real work).  Seeing all them people running is very hard to resist, if you were able enough you'd run too just to see what's up.  There's no real reason for what I just linked to with the huddle, being much more than the three minutes mark.

    One of the Major stumbling blocks to the accepted time line you have bought into is DPD Officer Hargis MISSING from any Assassination Image showing the North Knoll. Hargis testified that he ran up to that Little Wall on the knoll. That is nowhere to be found on Any assassination image. My belief is the Camera Cars were at a Stop at the corner of Houston/Elm Longer than we have been led to believe. This same extended time goes for Hargis crossing Elm St and running to that Little Wall. And this same time extension would also apply to the JFK Limo being on Elm St and then being filmed by Wiegman going under the Triple Underpass.  Yeah, this is All about the JFK Limo either having slow-rolled down Elm St for an extended period of time, or possibly coming to a Stop. This would be roughly 30 seconds max having gone MIA.
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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2019, 07:13:22 PM »
Barry,
I believe that is indeed Mr. Underwood. This stabilized gif shows no hat while his glasses and raincoat are evident. The above annotated frame was grabbed while Underwood was leaning (or is it bending?) into the conversation with Craig while Darnell cranks his camera spring. Don Cook is present in some of the TSBD doorway scenes, some including Howard Brennan. Cook was not wearing an overcoat or raincoat, iirc.


Much obliged James.  I should know better by now than to use a still frame, especially when the full clip I just posted the link to... anyway, well worth it for that stable clip, ty.
Naturally we'd think that's Haygood again in the background but I guess technically it could be Hargis if it's around three minutes into it.