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Offline Bill Charleston

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2019, 10:58:36 PM »
Virtually ALL of the witnesses in Dallas at Parkland....( about thirty people) said that JFK had a huge hole in the back of his skull.....


You're right, the case is no big mystery....But it requires guts to face the truth...  And that's the problem.    Far too many cannot accept the truth, and would rather accept a lie .....

Virtually ALL of the witnesses at Parkland:



You don't have to look at only Parkland to find witnesses who said there was a MASSIVE hole in the right posterior of JFK's head.  Some of the witnesses shown above were in Dealey Plaza, some at Parkland and some at Bethesda.

What would be the odds that so many witnesses who saw JFK's head would say that there was a large hole in the rear of it wasn't actually there?  The obvious answer is that the odds of so many people who never talked with each other describing similar things would NEVER be expected to happen.

At this point it would seem to me that no reasonable person would believe that a conspiracy didn't exist. 

The US government's version of the condition of the back of JFK's head is based in large part on the autopsy information that was developed at Bethesda.



The scenario of a small entrance wound in the rear of JFK's head as shown on the left of the image was always controlled by the US gov't.  Because all of the medical personnel at Bethesda were initially given orders that they couldn't talk about the case, it shows that the US gov't could control what people said and what information was shown to the public.  In other words, it would have been possible for the US gov't to have FORGED/ALTERED/DESTROYED evidence as necessary to show a small bullet hole instead of the large wound that was actually there.

At this point, it is easy to ask a few questions:

1.  WHO had the power to organize a team to kill the President of the United States?

2.  WHO had the power to "fix" the investiation so that the autopsy photographs could be forged to hide the truth?  (The actual photographs were NOT shown until 1988 on the 25th anniversary of the brutal murder)

https://vimeo.com/130545091  about time 29 the documentary talks about the doctors finally sllowed to review the autopsy photographs

3.  What would be the most likely motive for the US gov't to have forged autopsy information?  The answer to that question is rather easy.

Getting back on topic to this thread, no reasonable person who has reviewed the JFK assassination information about the autopsy should be able to say CONSPIRACY THEORY.  Instead, the most likely answer at this point is CONSPIRACY FACT!

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2019, 11:54:51 PM »
Virtually ALL of the witnesses at Parkland:



You don't have to look at only Parkland to find witnesses who said there was a MASSIVE hole in the right posterior of JFK's head.  Some of the witnesses shown above were in Dealey Plaza, some at Parkland and some at Bethesda.

What would be the odds that so many witnesses who saw JFK's head would say that there was a large hole in the rear of it wasn't actually there?  The obvious answer is that the odds of so many people who never talked with each other describing similar things would NEVER be expected to happen.

At this point it would seem to me that no reasonable person would believe that a conspiracy didn't exist. 

The US government's version of the condition of the back of JFK's head is based in large part on the autopsy information that was developed at Bethesda.



The scenario of a small entrance wound in the rear of JFK's head as shown on the left of the image was always controlled by the US gov't.  Because all of the medical personnel at Bethesda were initially given orders that they couldn't talk about the case, it shows that the US gov't could control what people said and what information was shown to the public.  In other words, it would have been possible for the US gov't to have FORGED/ALTERED/DESTROYED evidence as necessary to show a small bullet hole instead of the large wound that was actually there.

At this point, it is easy to ask a few questions:

1.  WHO had the power to organize a team to kill the President of the United States?

2.  WHO had the power to "fix" the investiation so that the autopsy photographs could be forged to hide the truth?  (The actual photographs were NOT shown until 1988 on the 25th anniversary of the brutal murder)

https://vimeo.com/130545091  about time 29 the documentary talks about the doctors finally sllowed to review the autopsy photographs

3.  What would be the most likely motive for the US gov't to have forged autopsy information?  The answer to that question is rather easy.

Getting back on topic to this thread, no reasonable person who has reviewed the JFK assassination information about the autopsy should be able to say CONSPIRACY THEORY.  Instead, the most likely answer at this point is CONSPIRACY FACT!

These BOH eyewitnesses are not consistent.



The first day DP eyewitnesses are all consistent because they can only honestly say what they saw.



Many eyewitnesses agree 100% with the first day DP eyewitnesses, the unaltered Zapruder film, the X rays, the autopsy photos, etc..



A lot of the autopsy photos were taken in stereo pairs which eliminates any photographic manipulation.



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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2019, 12:00:15 AM »
The FBI were the "cleaners" of the coup and they focused on pushing the LNer narrative and erased any contradictions. They hoped JFK was killed before reaching the turkey shoot point so the umbrella man wouldn't have to signal Greer to slow down the limo so they could finish him off.

The FBI's main objectives were to erase all signs of shots from the front and side and speeding up the limo in the Z-film. They also had to deal with near simultaneous blow-outs at JFK's right temple and the back of his head, which occurred when Greer slowed down the limo at the turkey shoot point where several near simultaneous shots sounded like a single shot from Oswald.

One of the things that was altered in the Z-film was the gaping hole in the back of JFK's head. Especially frame 323:



If you look closely there is a blacked out spot which covers the occipital region of JFK's head . The following graphic shows the trajectory of the bullet that caused all that damage:



There is the obvious postmortem surgery to hide the entrance wound:



Then there is the simultaneous shot from the side with a frangible bullet that created JFK's right temple blow-out:



A shooter from the 6th floor of the TSBD couldn't possibly have created all these wounds with a single FMJ bullet.

Which leads us inexorably to the conclusion that ALL the autopsy photos were BS, which includes this one:



Good thing for the LNers this autopsy photo is fake because there is no trajectory from the TSBD into JFK's back, out his throat and into Conally's armpit. Otherwise, I challenge the LNers (especially Mytton) to demonstrate one. Until then, the best hypothesis is that the autopsy photos were faked, the Z-film was edited and the JFK assassination was a coup d'etat. Show me otherwise.

 
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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2019, 12:09:57 AM »
The FBI were the "cleaners" of the coup and they focused on pushing the LNer narrative and erased any contradictions. They hoped JFK was killed before reaching the turkey shoot point so the umbrella man wouldn't have to signal Greer to slow down the limo so they could finish him off.

The FBI's main objectives were to erase all signs of shots from the front and side and speeding up the limo in the Z-film. They also had to deal with near simultaneous blow-outs at JFK's right temple and the back of his head, which occurred when Greer slowed down the limo at the turkey shoot point where several near simultaneous shots sounded like a single shot from Oswald.

One of the things that was altered in the Z-film was the gaping hole in the back of JFK's head. Especially frame 323:



If you look closely there is a blacked out spot which covers the occipital region of JFK's head . The following graphic shows the trajectory of the bullet that caused all that damage:



There is the obvious postmortem surgery to hide the entrance wound:



Then there is the simultaneous shot from the side with a frangible bullet that created JFK's right temple blow-out:



A shooter from the 6th floor of the TSBD couldn't possibly have created all these wounds with a single FMJ bullet.

Which leads us inexorably to the conclusion that ALL the autopsy photos were BS, which includes this one:



Good thing for the LNers this autopsy photo is fake because there is no trajectory from the TSBD into JFK's back and out his throat in into Conally's armpit. Otherwise, I challenge the LNers to demonstrate one. Until then, the best hypothesis is that the autopsy photos were faked, the Z-film was edited and the JFK assassination was a coup coup d'etat. Show me otherwise.

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signal Greer to slow down the limo

Yeah sure, Greer knew that he was driving into a turkey shoot and fully accepted the mission, how absurd!

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The FBI's main objectives were to erase all signs of shots from the front and side and speeding up the limo in the Z-film.

How pray tell did they "speed" up the Limo in the Zapruder film? This will be good!

And as for the rest, typical Trojan BS, what a clown!

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2019, 12:26:58 AM »
Yeah sure, Greer knew that he was driving into a turkey shoot and fully accepted the mission, how absurd!

You don't think Greer was confident that sharpshooters wouldn't kill him with Connally as a buffer?

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How pray tell did they "speed" up the Limo in the Zapruder film? This will be good!

You actually know squat about film editing, don't you?

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And as for the rest, typical Trojan BS, what a clown!

Still waiting for your 2 laser re-enactment of the magic bullet Myttonhead. I know you've done it, so where's the beef?  :D

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2019, 04:40:37 AM »
You don't think Greer was confident that sharpshooters wouldn't kill him with Connally as a buffer?

You actually know squat about film editing, don't you?

Still waiting for your 2 laser re-enactment of the magic bullet Myttonhead. I know you've done it, so where's the beef?  :D

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You don't think Greer was confident that sharpshooters wouldn't kill him with Connally as a buffer?

I know that I wouldn't knowingly drive into your triangulation of snipers, would you?

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You actually know squat about film editing, don't you?

The proof of my film editing competence is on display in hours of Youtube videos and you?
And in addition, here on this site I have posted a stack of video gifs which all require some form of editing, from editing out redundant scenes, editing together time sensitive video collages all the way through to speed manipulation and you?

Anyway enough of your amateur gibberish, in Zapruder the reality is we are left with sequential film frames of Zapruder's pan which are all mathematically measurable from frame to frame and even with 1 frame removed the sequence instantly has a staccato effect.

Herbert an old member made a claim that the following woman had a frame removed at the time of the headshot but as can be seen in the video I edited and composited together, as soon as even 1 frame is removed it's instantly detectable. How about you prove your observations with something similar?





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Still waiting for your 2 laser re-enactment of the magic bullet Myttonhead. I know you've done it, so where's the beef?  :D

What? It's your claim and so far all you've got is some 2d stickman representation that isn't even remotely Kennedy's position. I thought you were some sort of photogrammetry wizard, this sort of stuff should be a walk in the park?

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2019, 07:57:59 PM »
I know that I wouldn't knowingly drive into your triangulation of snipers, would you?

No, I wouldn't.  But what does that have to do with Greer's "orders" and whether he complied?

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The proof of my film editing competence is on display in hours of Youtube videos and you?
And in addition, here on this site I have posted a stack of video gifs which all require some form of editing, from editing out redundant scenes, editing together time sensitive video collages all the way through to speed manipulation and you?

 :D Everyone knows you are merely an armchair photoshopper with zero training in photogrammetry. So you equate video gifs with 8mm film? For that alone, you fail.

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Anyway enough of your amateur gibberish, in Zapruder the reality is we are left with sequential film frames of Zapruder's pan which are all mathematically measurable from frame to frame and even with 1 frame removed the sequence instantly has a staccato effect.

I espouse professional gibberish, thank you very much. Unlike you, I actually put in the time to learn geomatics and photogrammetry, which I apply to my work every day. That's why I know you are a joke. Staccato effect, right!  :D

Do you believe any frames are missing in this sequence? I set the animated gif to real time, which has Greer facing forward faster than the blink of your beady eye, mate.



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Herbert an old member made a claim that the following woman had a frame removed at the time of the headshot but as can be seen in the video I edited and composited together, as soon as even 1 frame is removed it's instantly detectable. How about you prove your observations with something similar?

So you are comparing 1 copy of the Z film vs another?  :D Axe yourself why the FBI returned a copy to Zapruder and kept the original, which they sure as hell edited. There are at least 3 splices which cannot be attributed to Zapruder.

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What? It's your claim and so far all you've got is some 2d stickman representation that isn't even remotely Kennedy's position. I thought you were some sort of photogrammetry wizard, this sort of stuff should be a walk in the park?

I know you are dumb, but not that dumb. You know damn well how the re-enactment works and you have already done it and were heartbroken at your results. It's the reason you stopped posting here, otherwise, you would have posted your results faster than a magic bullet.

Here are my results, sucka:



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