What drives people to conspiracy theory?

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Offline Brian Walker

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2019, 04:02:01 PM »
Brilliantly addressed by Billie Holiday:

Strange Fruit

Southern trees bear strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees

Pastoral scene of the gallant south
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh
Then the sudden smell of burning flesh


Here is fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop
Here is a strange and bitter crop


Songwriters: Lewis Allan / Maurice Pearl / Dwayne P Wiggins
Strange Fruit lyrics ? Warner/Chappell Music, Inc



Jussie Smollett did a nice version also.



Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2019, 07:51:03 PM »
What would be a representative sample?  My daughter is a clinical psychologist, her husband an Asst.DA and most of their friends similarly educated. So, what are they missing?

You cannot get into decent positions like that unless you are well versed in towing the line.  From kindergarten we are told to behave ourselves or become separated from the group and this continues throughout our lives.  Start doing your own research and come to class with awkward questions(I mean REALLY awkward) and once again you'll become ostracized, get fed up or frustrated and drop out or at the v least have this troublemaker label forever on your record.  Also, when you train to become somebody and hold down a decent job and raise a family you just don't have the time to study this crap.

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2019, 08:09:19 PM »
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What drives people to conspiracy theory?

I do my best to avoid generalizations and I can only give you my experience.
Nothing drove me to it, it just came to me after seeing a documentary on the case, the head-shot(b&ttl)and the whole grassy knoll "evidence", I just thought, there's clearly something wrong here and of course, you say, wow, "they"'ve been lying to us...
Coming online and seeing the whole community so into it, it's great, for so many reasons.  You learn how to evaluate evidence properly, to question and research correctly too, to admit when you are wrong like it's nothing and personally, to come to respect and value both sides after realizing we are ultimately on the same team and a very, very small section of society.

Offline Bill Charleston

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2019, 02:47:51 PM »
And a whopping 61% said they do not believe the official conclusion of the Warren Commission that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating President John F. Kennedy, according to a 2013 Gallup poll. The number has not dropped below 50% since Gallup began polling on the subject just after the 1963 tragedy.

People don't believe the "official" explanations when they do NOT make sense. But not believing the official explanations does NOT prove what DID happen.

So to SOLVE the JFK assassination "mystery", you MUST be able to identify the valid evidence and reject the invalid evidence.

For example, the JFK assassination evidence has evidence wich indicates there was a LARGE exit wound in the right posterior of JFK's head.  Other "evidence" clearly shows there was NO large exit wound in the back of JFK's head.  The multi-million dollar question is WHICH set of evidence is correct?  And which is invalid?  Were these conflicts caused by simple mistakes OR was a large amount of invalid evidence forged?



To answer these questions correctly is NOT conceptually difficult.  If you have a grasp of basic high school level math, you can understand HOW to answer these questions correctly.  Once you have done that, you can see how easily the JFK assassination can be solved.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2019, 02:56:57 PM »
It was almost 60 years ago. It really doesn?t matter anymore. Even if there was a conspiracy, everybody involved is dead or dying. It didn?t change anything and neither will ?knowing? the ?truth.? Historical events loose their impact as time progresses.

It didn?t change anything and neither will ?knowing? the ?truth.?

How do you know that "it didn't change anything"?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2019, 02:59:02 PM »
And a whopping 61% said they do not believe the official conclusion of the Warren Commission that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating President John F. Kennedy, according to a 2013 Gallup poll. The number has not dropped below 50% since Gallup began polling on the subject just after the 1963 tragedy.

People don't believe the "official" explanations when they do NOT make sense. But not believing the official explanations does NOT prove what DID happen.

So to SOLVE the JFK assassination "mystery", you MUST be able to identify the valid evidence and reject the invalid evidence.

For example, the JFK assassination evidence has evidence wich indicates there was a LARGE exit wound in the right posterior of JFK's head.  Other "evidence" clearly shows there was NO large exit wound in the back of JFK's head.  The multi-million dollar question is WHICH set of evidence is correct?  And which is invalid?  Were these conflicts caused by simple mistakes OR was a large amount of invalid evidence forged?



To answer these questions correctly is NOT conceptually difficult.  If you have a grasp of basic high school level math, you can understand HOW to answer these questions correctly.  Once you have done that, you can see how easily the JFK assassination can be solved.

Virtually ALL of the witnesses in Dallas at Parkland....( about thirty people) said that JFK had a huge hole in the back of his skull.....


You're right, the case is no big mystery....But it requires guts to face the truth...  And that's the problem.    Far too many cannot accept the truth, and would rather accept a lie .....

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What drives people to conspiracy theory?
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2019, 03:12:07 PM »
It didn?t change anything and neither will ?knowing? the ?truth.?

How do you know that "it didn't change anything"?

Actually the coup d e'tat changed the course of history....   I doubt that nearly 60,000 young Americans would have been killed in Vietnam if JFK had not been murdered....   IMO 60,000 young men is significant.... And that's only one of the things that resulted from of the murder....