Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?

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Offline John Anderson

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #77 on: February 12, 2018, 10:01:19 AM »
And Clinton said  "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky''.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #78 on: February 12, 2018, 12:19:58 PM »
Why don't you explain this first?

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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) left the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) and took a bus AND A CAB to get to his rooming house room to retrieve the pistol and jacket.  But as John Mytton showed Captain Will Fritz testified to something else LHO said he did!

Mr. BALL. What did he say?

Mr. FRITZ. He told me he went over and caught a bus and rode the bus to North Beckley near where he lived and went by home and changed clothes and got his pistol and went to the show. I asked him why he took his pistol and he said, "Well, you know about a pistol; I just carried it." Let's see if I asked him anything else right that minute. That is just about it.

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We simply don't know how Lee was transported from the TSBD to the rooming house... to the theater.....

I believe most reasonable and intelligent folks can assimilate the facts and understand that Lee was NOT he passenger in Whaley's taxi.

And the WC lawyers certainly understood that fact because the worked diligently to  warp and twist the facts in this episode. Primarily by presenting the idea that Lee was guilty and needed to be sure here were no police awaiting his arrival at he rooming house.

When that idea is scrutinized it simply doesn't wash......

And neither does this account.....
He told me he went over and caught a bus and rode the bus to North Beckley near where he lived and went by home and changed clothes and got his pistol and went to the show.

According to the reports filed by the various people at the Saturday interrogation, Lee told them that He had got off the bus and had  taken a taxi and he knew that he had paid 85 cents for that ride.   

IMO the fact that Lee said the fare was 85 cents is a solid indication that he did in fact take a taxi....but it was NOT William Whaley's taxi.

The 85 cent fare would have been the correct fare to transport him from the Greyhound bus depot to the intersection of  Zangs and Beckley.   Recall that Henry Wade told reporters that the cab driver's name was Daryle Glick.....or Click...

The question is:.....Why were the WC lawyers so determined to hide the truth about Lee Oswald's method of transport??? 


Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #79 on: February 12, 2018, 03:13:18 PM »
Why would your fantasy conspirators go to the considerable trouble and risk to make up a bus and cab ride story?  Imagine the risk that entails in convincing random witnesses who are on the bus to confirm (or least not deny) that Oswald got on the bus.  And then a cab driver.  How would the conspirators even have a clue which bus or cab would be in position?  What would be the point since the bus went nowhere?  What if Oswald was seen elsewhere or arrested at the same time he was supposed to be on the bus or cab?  It is ludicrous as part of a planned event.  The only possible explanation in a conspiracy scenario is that the conspirators assisted Oswald in his getaway from the TSBD.  But why would they do this is they wanted him dead?  Why assist him in getting away from the TSBD but then abandon him at his boardinghouse?  Why take him there to begin with if they are assisting him?  Why not just keep driving for Mexico?  If they are not assisting him, why not just leave him at the TSBD?  If you are not suggesting a conspiracy here but simply that Oswald got to his boardinghouse via some other means on his own, it doesn't seem to matter much.  You are wrong but it doesn't really matter except as an historical curiosity.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2018, 03:27:18 PM »
Why would your fantasy conspirators go to the considerable trouble and risk to make up a bus and cab ride story?  Imagine the risk that entails in convincing random witnesses who are on the bus to confirm (or least not deny) that Oswald got on the bus.  And then a cab driver.  How would the conspirators even have a clue which bus or cab would be in position?  What would be the point since the bus went nowhere?  What if Oswald was seen elsewhere or arrested at the same time he was supposed to be on the bus or cab?  It is ludicrous as part of a planned event.  The only possible explanation in a conspiracy scenario is that the conspirators assisted Oswald in his getaway from the TSBD.  But why would they do this is they wanted him dead?  Why assist him in getting away from the TSBD but then abandon him at his boardinghouse?  Why take him there to begin with if they are assisting him?  Why not just keep driving for Mexico?  If they are not assisting him, why not just leave him at the TSBD?  If you are not suggesting a conspiracy here but simply that Oswald got to his boardinghouse via some other means on his own, it doesn't seem to matter much.  You are wrong but it doesn't really matter except as an historical curiosity.

It is amusing that you keep on asking questions based on the idea that "the conspirators" must have planned everything to minute detail in advance and you don't give a thought to the possibility of a narrative being constructed after the fact and using available (reliable or not) information.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2018, 04:00:13 PM »
It is amusing that you keep on asking questions based on the idea that "the conspirators" must have planned everything to minute detail in advance and you don't give a thought to the possibility of a narrative being constructed after the fact and using available (reliable or not) information.

LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.  Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly.  In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.  Even Houdini couldn't pull that off.  Did they also have a time machine to go back and figure out which bus and cab would have been in place at the correct times?  And that the bus went nowhere necessitating a fake cab ride.  And who would be on the bus etc.  It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact" as you stupidly suggest unless they had real time knowledge of the bus and cab in place at that moment.  And they could only know that if they planned this in advance.  I know that it is difficult for you to be anything other than a lazy contrarian but assume the fetal position in some dark place and try thinking for once. 
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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2018, 04:20:08 PM »
LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.  Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly.  In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.  Even Houdini couldn't pull that off.  Did they also have a time machine to go back and figure out which bus and cab would have been in place at the correct times?  And that the bus went nowhere necessitating a fake cab ride.  And who would be on the bus etc.  It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact" as you stupidly suggest unless they had real time knowledge of the bus and cab in place at that moment.  And they could only know that if they planned this in advance.  I know that it is difficult for you to be anything other than a lazy contrarian but assume the fetal position in some dark place and try thinking for once.

LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.

Why is it that nearly all (if not all) LNs have this massive superiority complex? 

Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly. 

Really? It seems to me they had two possible scenarios from the beginning; the first one was a bus/taxi scenario and the second one was a guy being picked up by a car on Elm street.

In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.

Did he?

It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact"

Well it requires the use of a functional brain... perhaps that's your problem.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Was Lee Oswald the passenger in Whaley's Taxi?
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2018, 04:30:45 PM »
LOL.  That is because you can't follow along as usual.

Why is it that nearly all (if not all) LNs have this massive superiority complex? 

Your fantasy conspirators must have been fast to construct this "after the fact" since Oswald's cab and bus ride became known pretty quickly. 

Really? It seems to me they had two possible scenarios from the beginning; the first one was a bus/taxi scenario and the second one was a guy being picked up by a car on Elm street.

In fact, they were so efficient that Oswald had a bus transfer in his pocket when arrested.

Did he?

It is somewhat difficult to understand how that narrative could have been constructed "after the fact"

Well it requires the use of a functional brain... perhaps that's your problem.

Whew.  You are all over the place.  First it was planned after the fact.  Now there were multiple plans in place beforehand.  Try to focus.  How would the conspirators know which bus would be in place at the right moment and who was on that bus?  How would they get someone on the bus to lie and confirm that Oswald got on?   How would they keep the others quiet?  Why add all these people to the conspiracy when the bus took Oswald nowhere and advanced his escape not one iota?  If the conspirators wanted Oswald dead, why give him any assistance after the fact and then abandon him at his boardinghouse?  Why not let him make his own way there or better yet knock him off at the TSBD?  Instead they give him a head start and cover story for how he reaches his boardinghouse necessitating the coordination of a complex web of facts in lightning speed that add multiple parties to the conspiracy at great risk for no apparent purpose except to put Oswald on a bus to nowhere.   Ridiculous.  You should beg forgiveness from intelligent people for even your feeble attempt to validate this nutty theory.