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Author Topic: BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963  (Read 97473 times)

Offline Alan Ford

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That's what you've been reduced to.  You are in a box. Placed there by yourself.  You cannot give a reasonable explanation for why the items that I listed were checked for fingerprints.  It's basically your own question thrown back in your face. It's unanswerable.

Here's what you've been reduced to, Mr Nickerson: throwing makey-uppy numbers at a document whose data you don't like. I guess this is what passes for research in the Warren Gullible community these days!  :D

Looking forward to seeing your subdivision of the items on your list into 'Removed from Paine home' and 'Removed from Beckley apartment'  Thumb1:

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Provenance of items removed from Paine residence: Paine residence!
Provenance of items removed from Beckley: Beckley!

Now how about you quit parrying and answer the question:
Of the items on the long list you went to the trouble of giving us, which came from Irving and which from Beckley?

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The soap (used and unused), toothpaste, the white plastic cup, and the razor blades were found at North Beckley. What would be the reason for checking those items for fingerprints?

Offline Alan Ford

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The soap (used and unused), toothpaste, the white plastic cup, and the razor blades were found at North Beckley. What would be the reason for checking those items for fingerprints?

Already answered, Mr Nickerson, do try to keep up:

Those would have been tested to see if they bore fingerprints of any party other than Mr Oswald. Such would indicate known associates, potentially of interest to the case.

Standard procedure, no?

What else you got?


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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Already answered, Mr Nickerson, do try to keep up:

Those would have been tested to see if they bore fingerprints of any party other than Mr Oswald. Such would indicate known associates, potentially of interest to the case.

Standard procedure, no?

What else you got?

LOL...What? Was he sharing his toothbrush as well?  ???

Offline Alan Ford

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LOL...What? Was he sharing his toothbrush as well?  ???

Quite possibly. Or maybe it wasn't his toothbrush. Either way, someone else's prints would indicate that Mr Oswald had a secret associate in his life.

What else you got, Mr Nickerson?
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Online Richard Smith

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If Oswald was complicit in his own frame up as you suggest, then why didn't he just carry the rifle in his bag?

HUH??....  WHY ? do you assume that the rifle was available in the garage to be carried anywhere that morning.....    BUT if it had been, the rifle would have been much more difficult to conceal, than a couple of curtain rods.    And even though Lee was playing the role that had been cast for him.....He was smart enough to avoid being seen with a rifle near the Parade route that morning.....

He knew the play called for him to be seen as a Castro supporter who had taken a shot at JFK....   Just as that hoax was used at Walker's house back in April...

Why wouldn't the rifle "be available" in a scenario in which Oswald was complicit in his own frame up?  Good grief.  Why would the rifle be more difficult to conceal in a bag than curtain rods?  Why would Oswald be seen with a rifle near the parade route if it was in a bag and he carried it straight into the building hours before the motorcade?  That sounds like something Caprio might dream up.  But you think in a scenario in which Oswald wanted to be identified as the assassin, that he would carry a bag too short to contain the rifle and put curtain rods in it?  You can't honestly believe that kind of nonsense.  In your fantasy scenario, Oswald would carry the rifle in his bag.  It is an interesting insight into the mind of a CTer, though, that even when they suggest Oswald was complicit they still can't bring themselves to acknowledge that he carried the rifle. 

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Why wouldn't the rifle "be available" in a scenario in which Oswald was complicit in his own frame up?  Good grief.  Why would the rifle be more difficult to conceal in a bag than curtain rods?  Why would Oswald be seen with a rifle near the parade route if it was in a bag and he carried it straight into the building hours before the motorcade?  That sounds like something Caprio might dream up.  But you think in a scenario in which Oswald wanted to be identified as the assassin, that he would carry a bag too short to contain the rifle and put curtain rods in it?  You can't honestly believe that kind of nonsense.  In your fantasy scenario, Oswald would carry the rifle in his bag.  It is an interesting insight into the mind of a CTer, though, that even when they suggest Oswald was complicit they still can't bring themselves to acknowledge that he carried the rifle.

It is an interesting insight into the mind of a CTer, though, that even when they suggest Oswald was complicit they still can't bring themselves to acknowledge that he carried the rifle.

BS. It seems to me that most CTs would readily accept that Oswald brought in the rifle on Friday morning if there was evidence to support such a claim.

As it stands, there are two witnesses who do not support such a claim and there is no physical evidence for it either. All there is, is conjecture and speculation.

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Offline Alan Ford

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It seems to me that most CTs would readily accept that Oswald brought in the rifle on Friday morning if there was evidence to support such a claim.

Indeed! And one might add that no LNs would ever accept that Oswald brought in curtain rods on Friday morning if there were evidence to support such a claim--------which, as it turns out, there is!  Thumb1: