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Offline Bill Chapman

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Yes: AFAYK!  Thumb1:

An excellent place would be the small storage room on the first floor, just off the vestibule. Which is exactly where Mr Ochus Campbell was telling the press Mr Oswald was seen just after the assassination!  Thumb1:

Well, that wouldn't set off any alarm bells in Mr Oswald's head now, would it?  ::)

... getting the curtain rods?

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Online Richard Smith

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Alan, if nothing else your efforts have again exposed the official story, according known document details, is full of holes. For those of us who wish to understand what happened it provides little solace, to the sheep, as we might suspect, all we will get is some bleating.

The only reason anyone would want to fingerprint the curtain rods in the Paine garage in March 64 would be a suspicion that somehow they were returned there from the crime scene after the assassination.  Certainly there was no thoughts that Oswald could perform that deed. Did they suspect Frazier of doing that? No mention of Frazier in the report and after all why would Frazier do so, it would not help him in the slightest.

Certainly Liebeler seemed totally unaware of any curtain rods in the Paine garage until his deposition of Michael Paine on March 17th.

Given that it was the authorities that brought these curtain rods to light to check them for prints it is somewhat difficult to understand how the "official" story has been exposed.  If these same authorities had been involved in covering up curtain rods from the TSBD as part of the frame up of Oswald, why would they suddenly bring them to light and somehow convince Ruth Paine to lie about them being in her garage?  LOL.  Good grief.  They are simply doing due diligence.  Oswald claimed to Frazier (although he denied it to authorities) about going to the Paine home for curtain rods.  There are some curtain rods at the Paine home.  The authorities check them to see if there is any link to Oswald.  Seems pretty obvious.

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Yes: AFAYK!  Thumb1:

An excellent place would be the small storage room on the first floor, just off the vestibule. Which is exactly where Mr Ochus Campbell was telling the press Mr Oswald was seen just after the assassination!  Thumb1:

Well, that wouldn't set off any alarm bells in Mr Oswald's head now, would it?  ::)

Hiding the curtain rods would run counter to the plan I suggested... which was curtain-rod 'show & tell' (Shelley) in nature. Hiding the curtain rods in a storage room still runs the risk of them being stolen.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Given that it was the authorities that brought these curtain rods to light to check them for prints it is somewhat difficult to understand how the "official" story has been exposed.  If these same authorities had been involved in covering up curtain rods from the TSBD as part of the frame up of Oswald, why would they suddenly bring them to light and somehow convince Ruth Paine to lie about them being in her garage?  LOL.  Good grief.  They are simply doing due diligence.  Oswald claimed to Frazier (although he denied it to authorities) about going to the Paine home for curtain rods.  There are some curtain rods at the Paine home.  The authorities check them to see if there is any link to Oswald.  Seems pretty obvious.

Good to see you back, Mr Smith!  Thumb1:

Now!

I want you to take a long hard look at this. It is a calendar of March 1964, on which I have circled two dates:



In your considered opinion, Mr Smith, which of these two dates came first?:

15 March 1964 (the date when 2 curtain rods were submitted by Agent Howlett for fingerprinting to the DPD Crime Scene Search Section)
or
23 March 1964 (the date when 2 curtain rods were found by Agent Howlett in Ms Ruth Paine's garage).

Thank you for your input!  Thumb1:


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Hiding the curtain rods would run counter to the plan I suggested... which was curtain-rod 'show & tell' (Shelley) in nature.

Could you translate into English please? Thank you!  Thumb1:

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Hiding the curtain rods in a storage room still runs the risk of them being stolen.

Yes---it would be like leaving a 10-carat pink diamond from Tiffany's lying around  ::)

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Given that it was the authorities that brought these curtain rods to light to check them for prints it is somewhat difficult to understand how the "official" story has been exposed.  If these same authorities had been involved in covering up curtain rods from the TSBD as part of the frame up of Oswald, why would they suddenly bring them to light and somehow convince Ruth Paine to lie about them being in her garage?  LOL.  Good grief.  They are simply doing due diligence.  Oswald claimed to Frazier (although he denied it to authorities) about going to the Paine home for curtain rods.  There are some curtain rods at the Paine home.  The authorities check them to see if there is any link to Oswald.  Seems pretty obvious.

why would they suddenly bring them to light and somehow convince Ruth Paine to lie about them being in her garage?

Good question Mr "Smith"....   The answer is:....  Because if they were in her garage then they cetainly couldn't have bveen in a 27 inch "FLIMSY" and "Crinkly" paper sack that lee carried that morning....  IOW...  The curtain rods in Paine's garage were a way to refute the dead patsy's story....

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Given that it was the authorities that brought these curtain rods to light to check them for prints it is somewhat difficult to understand how the "official" story has been exposed.  If these same authorities had been involved in covering up curtain rods from the TSBD as part of the frame up of Oswald, why would they suddenly bring them to light and somehow convince Ruth Paine to lie about them being in her garage?  LOL.  Good grief.  They are simply doing due diligence.  Oswald claimed to Frazier (although he denied it to authorities) about going to the Paine home for curtain rods.  There are some curtain rods at the Paine home.  The authorities check them to see if there is any link to Oswald.  Seems pretty obvious.

Note how Colin drags out the 'sheep' thing again. Ah, the old Appeal to Rebellion thing again

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Could you translate into English please? Thank you!  Thumb1:

Yes---it would be like leaving a 10-carat pink diamond from Tiffany's lying around  ::)

My intent is to show how Oswald could have backed up his curtain rod story re Buell.
Bring the curtain rods and rifle together
Place the curtain rods in another bag once he got to work
Ask his boss if he can leave them in his office for the day

Good so far?