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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #252 on: February 01, 2019, 08:26:10 PM »
Well, if you want to reject the peer-reviewed research of people then I guess we can't go anywhere on the expert question. Experts can be wrong of course; but one has to show where and how. 

In any case, do you think eyewitness accounts are always reliable? Here we have a specific case where  they can be wrong: two witnesses - Duran and Mirabal - say the man was Oswald and another witness - Azcue - saying it wasn't.

Obviously, someone is wrong here. So we consider other evidence that can corroborate what the parties say.

Re the application: I'm not sure what others are talking about but I am referring to the transit visa applications he signed. With the photos. That Duran said she typed for him. And had him sign.

Gee, a guy who was probably dyslexic and a notorious bad speller all of a sudden has his passport application under scrutiny because of misspellings. Only in kookville does that make an ounce of sense. Jerry was floating the idea that Oswald's application was funny because it was issued in 24 hours and because it had the initials NO to the right of his name. When it was pointed out that the 24 or so other applicants in that telex were also granted passports in 24 hours and it was shown that the initials NO next to Oswald's name just happened to be a coincidence based on a careful study of many other telex from NO and NY he only has this little nugget of the misspelled words to throw at the wall hoping it will, at least temporarily, cause a minor brown stain.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #253 on: February 01, 2019, 10:57:39 PM »
Where the heck did you get that screwy story from! The Mob loved Batista. William Morgan was not connected to any of these guys and it's only alleged that Morgan was a US agent. Those who do the alleging get their info from Castro sympathizers. Castro had Morgan executed because Morgan became disenchanted with the direction that Castro was taking the Cuban Revolution by putting real commies like Raul as head of the Cuban Armed Forces and uber commie Che Guevara as head of the central bank or treasury. Morgan was very popular in Cuba and Castro used the excuse that Morgan was an American agent to put him in front of the firing squad. Castro did this to those of whom he felt were a threat to his popularity, like Camilo Cienfuegos and, eventually, that scumbag Che Guevara. It's highly likely that Gen. Arnaldo Ochoa Sanchez charges of drug smuggling were trumped up,  and he was sent to the firing squad because Ochoa had become too popular to Castro's liking. And you say that Lee Oswald was obsessed with toppling Castro. What a crock of ****!!!!

The Mob loved Batista.

No all the Gangsters, loved batista, and some American politicians (Nixon)  didn't love Batista either.... They wanted a bigger slice of the Cuban pie, and Batista was in the way.   They thought that the brash young Castro would be easy to manipulate so they backed Castro, and supplied him with money and guns and ammo.  Batista saw the "handwriting on the wall" and grabbed suitcases full of cash and boogied....

But Nixon and company miscalculated....Fidel Castro had been raised a catholic and he hated watching the mob turn Cuba into an immoral, crime ridden, stinking cesspool, where a small child could be bought for a couple of dollars and used in perverted sick sex acts. Castro wanted to improve the living standard in Cuba and  If Nixon had been smart he would have been at the New York airport to greet Castro when Castro came to The US.....   


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #254 on: February 02, 2019, 12:33:38 AM »
Gee, a guy who was probably dyslexic 
 When it was pointed out that the 24 or so other applicants in that telex were also granted passports in 24 hours and it was shown that the initials NO next to Oswald's name just happened to be a coincidence 
He was not dyslexic. Do you believe that someone who wrote sloppy misspelled  English ...was dyslexic even-- could write in Russian like this....



Take a good look at that penmanship. No sloppyness, markovers, or scratchouts,  at all!
That is page one of the heralded "Walker note" that Lee allegedly wrote Marina before allegedly vanishing to pop a cap into a general [for no reason at all] Did Oswald write it? If so--he appeared quite accomplished. If he didn't---- it appears quite fishy.
I cannot disprove the passport testimony. The "NO" coincidence etc. I just have my doubts.....Cheers

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #255 on: February 02, 2019, 12:54:13 AM »
He was not dyslexic. Do you believe that someone who wrote sloppy misspelled  English ...was dyslexic even-- could write in Russian like this....



Take a good look at that penmanship. No sloppyness, markovers, or scratchouts,  at all!
That is page one of the heralded "Walker note" that Lee allegedly wrote Marina before allegedly vanishing to pop a cap into a general [for no reason at all] Did Oswald write it? If so--he appeared quite accomplished. If he didn't---- it appears quite fishy.
I cannot disprove the passport testimony. The "NO" coincidence etc. I just have my doubts.....Cheers

That is page one of the heralded "Walker note" that Lee allegedly wrote Marina

Page one?   I thought there was only one page....    Who can read this and translate it?  I'd like to know what is written.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #256 on: February 02, 2019, 03:29:28 AM »
That is page one of the heralded "Walker note" that Lee allegedly wrote Marina

Page one?   I thought there was only one page....    Who can read this and translate it?  I'd like to know what is written.
There is a translation of two pages of instructions to Marina. It should be in a more separate/related topic.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #257 on: February 02, 2019, 04:51:07 AM »
There is a translation of two pages of instructions to Marina. It should be in a more separate/related topic.
Reply 429 https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1189.msg43417.html#new

Offline Liam Kelly

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #258 on: February 02, 2019, 07:14:12 AM »
Walt,
Mark Lane is talking and saying that the CIA told the Warren Commission that Oswald did go to
Mexico city where he met with a Russian (head of assasinations area of the KGB) and then a month later
Oswald shoots JFK.
Philips does not address the comment but apparently maintained that Oswald did go there.
Mark Lane, at that time, says there is no evidence whatsoever that Osawald was in Mexico.
The inference is of course, that the CIA made this up to 'terrorize' the commission into
avoiding conspiracy related considerations.