Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting

[Colin Crow]

For Oscar who likes to use Arce's WC testimony to show BRW was not outside the TSBD with the others before the motorcade........(not sure why, or what Oscar's argument is really but anyway)

Mr. BALL. Was Bonnie Ray Williams ever out there with you?
Mr. ARCE. No, he stayed upstairs with Hank. Junior stayed up there but he was down a little while and I guess he went upstairs.

Mr. BALL. What about Givens?
Mr. ARCE. He was down there with Shields, I guess---I mean Melvin---no, Carl, that's who he was with.

So according to Arce, Norman was not outside with Jarman. Let's move on shall we?

When did he see Jarman (and Givens).

Mr. BALL. You stood there how long before the parade came along?
Mr. ARCE. I am not too sure; it was about 10 minutes, somewhere. around there. I am not too sure about that.

So his best estimate is that he went out to stand and watch the parade at 12.20pm. He saw Jarman and Givens. Presumably he did not notice Norman, but yet another confirmation that is consistent with Jarman and Norman leaving to go up to the fifth after 12.20pm.

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

Oswald shot Kennedy...... get over it.  He also tried to shoot General Walker.  He also shot Officer Tippit.  He also tried to kill himself.  He also left his wedding ring and 170 dollars next to his wife's side table where she slept on the morning of the assassination.  He was also a total a**hole who deserved to be shot by Jack Ruby, who did the country a great service by killing the little creep.

Is your name really Mark? You're Dan Rather, right? I knew it

[Bill Chapman]

Oswald shot Kennedy...... get over it.  He also tried to shoot General Walker.  He also shot Officer Tippit.  He also tried to kill himself.  He also left his wedding ring and 170 dollars next to his wife's side table where she slept on the morning of the assassination.  He was also a total a**hole who deserved to be shot by Jack Ruby, who did the country a great service by killing the little creep.

He didn't do the country any favours. But he sure did a whole lot of conspiracy-book authors a solid.

[Bill Chapman]

So is it your contention that 5 minutes equates to getting the hell out of there?

And do you have any basis for assuming that Brennan's estimates of time are more accurate than Williams'?

And if it was Brennan's description that went out at 12:45, then why isn't it identical to Brennan's description?

Dispatch: All units, all units: Be advised murder suspect weighing 160-170 pounds at large
Car 54: Dispatch, eyes on a suspect weighing about 171 pounds
Dispatch: Car 54, do not apprehend, repeat, do not apprehend..

[Bill Chapman]

Is your name really Mark? You're Dan Rather, right? I knew it

He's right about Oswald, according to most of the country

https://www.theonion.com/poll-68-of-americans-believe-lee-harvey-oswald-acted-1819885391

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Dispatch: All units, all units: Be advised murder suspect weighing 160-170 pounds at large
Car 54: Dispatch, eyes on a suspect weighing about 171 pounds
Dispatch: Car 54, do not apprehend, repeat, do not apprehend..

Not Bad Chappie!....

Dispatch: unit 10....Be advised murder suspect weighing 160-170 pounds at large
Car 10 (Tippit) Dispatch, eyes on a suspect weighing about 171 pounds
Dispatch: Car 10, do not apprehend, repeat, do not apprehend..

NOT a bad way to demonstrate a Standard Operating Police  Procedure .....   And you've shown that IF IF Tippit had been tailing a suspect who had murdered the POTUS , he would have reported the sighting and called for back up.....   WHY didn't that happen Chappie?

[Bill Chapman]

Not Bad Chappie!....

Dispatch: unit 10....Be advised murder suspect weighing 160-170 pounds at large
Car 10 (Tippit) Dispatch, eyes on a suspect weighing about 171 pounds
Dispatch: Car 10, do not apprehend, repeat, do not apprehend..

NOT a bad way to demonstrate a Standard Operating Police  Procedure .....   And you've shown that IF IF Tippit had been tailing a suspect who had murdered the POTUS , he would have reported the sighting and called for back up.....   WHY didn't that happen Chappie?

You've missed my point.

I was being sarcastic re CT insistence on perfect estimated/actual weight matches.