Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting

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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting
« Reply #119 on: January 21, 2019, 04:59:26 PM »
What's with the HIGH POWERED capitalized! What's the big deal?

Howard Brennan used the term "HIGH POWERED RIFLE" to describe the weapon that he saw in the hands of the 175 pound  man in the light colored Khaki clothing .....

We can know that Brennan could have used an alternate term of big game HUNTING RIFLE  in place of "HIGH POWERED RIFLE.   And since Brennan was the source for the description of the suspect that was broadcast over the police radio at 12:45 we can be certain that Brennan was referring to a HUNTING RIFLE, because the police broadcast said that the suspect was armed with a "30 caliber rifle, possibly a 30.30 Winchester".   That information had to have come from Howard Brennan....

And Brennan definitely DID NOT tell the police that the man was aiming a old military rifle.......

Brennan could have based his description due to the loud sound made by the discharge, i.e., high powered rifle. Brennan never said it was a 30.30 Winchester so that description could have come from Sawyer's interpretation of what Brennan said or from another witness who might have identified the rifle as a 30.30 Winchester. That's a repeating rifle and some witnesses thought they heard rapid shots.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting
« Reply #120 on: January 21, 2019, 05:07:22 PM »
Brennan could have based his description due to the loud sound made by the discharge, i.e., high powered rifle. Brennan never said it was a 30.30 Winchester so that description could have come from Sawyer's interpretation of what Brennan said or from another witness who might have identified the rifle as a 30.30 Winchester. That's a repeating rifle and some witnesses thought they heard rapid shots.

That's a repeating rifle and some witnesses thought they heard rapid shots.

Thank you for admitting that the Carcano was a slow operating rifle....   By comparing it to a Winchester 30.30  which you clearly believe is a rapid fire weapon....

And you're absolutely right....Many of the witnesses who heard the shots thought the that the weapon being fired was an AUTOMATIC ...because the shots were so closely spaced.....  They most certainly were NOT describing a Mannlicher Carcano being fired.....

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting
« Reply #121 on: January 21, 2019, 05:21:29 PM »
That's a repeating rifle and some witnesses thought they heard rapid shots.

Thank you for admitting that the Carcano was a slow operating rifle....   By comparing it to a Winchester 30.30  which you clearly believe is a rapid fire weapon....

And you're absolutely right....Many of the witnesses who heard the shots thought the that the weapon being fired was an AUTOMATIC ...because the shots were so closely spaced.....  They most certainly were NOT describing a Mannlicher Carcano being fired.....

I associate the 30.30. Winchester as a lever action rifle therefore I used repeating rifle. Perhaps it's the wrong way to associate lever action with repeating rifle so let's say that a lever action rifle is much faster than a bolt action rifle. There's also a multiple sound factor to consider when a rifle is discharged so some ear witnesses could have confused the multiple sound effect (and echoes) with that of a rapid fire weapon.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting
« Reply #122 on: January 21, 2019, 05:34:17 PM »
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. One of the boxes (the one closest to the viewer) marked by Mooney on CE-513 formed part of the west wall of the SN. below is the view of the SN as seen looking from N to S. It is to the right (or West) of the area shown in CE-508 that BRW had lunch. BRW could have just walked over to the boxes forming the SN, looked inside, and seeing no one placed the chicken bone and the lunch bag on top of the box.



I don't know. It's highly doubtful that the one closest to the viewer made up part of the West Wall of the sniper's nest.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339010/m1/1/

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49643/m1/1/

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49651/m1/1/

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting
« Reply #123 on: January 21, 2019, 05:47:49 PM »
I don't know. It's highly doubtful that the one closest to the viewer made up part of the West Wall of the sniper's nest.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339010/m1/1/

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49643/m1/1/

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49651/m1/1/

It's highly doubtful that the one closest to the viewer made up part of the West Wall of the sniper's nest.

No doubt about it.... The boxes closest to the viewer DID NOT create the west wall of the tiny nook that is known as the "Sniper's Nest"

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting
« Reply #124 on: January 21, 2019, 07:57:42 PM »
I don't know. It's highly doubtful that the one closest to the viewer made up part of the West Wall of the sniper's nest.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339010/m1/1/

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49643/m1/1/

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49651/m1/1/

OK, substitute West with North. Doesn't change BRW access to the box from outside the SN. 

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting
« Reply #125 on: January 21, 2019, 09:42:57 PM »
OK, substitute West with North. Doesn't change BRW access to the box from outside the SN.

Yup. Definitely outside the SN.