The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?

[Andrew Mason]

"Look of terror" downgraded to "pained or startled look".

The descriptors "terror" or "pained" or "startled" are different ways of describing JFK's look in z225. The look is consistent with something unexpected and unpleasant happening to him and inconsistent with him just deciding to stop smiling and waving. The timing also tells you that because the chance of him reacting to something sudden and unpleasant 55 ms. before, but unrelated to, his reaction to being shot seems rather unlikely.

Connally says that in the same breath he's talking about his viewing of the Zapruder frames.

I was just pointing out that he may not have realized that there was a  significant difference between appearing from behind the sign in the zfilm and actually passing the sign.  No one bothered to ask him. This was one of the problems with the WC: there was no counsel taking an opposing position and asking probing questions, such as I have suggested could have been asked.

I think Greer's two turns between Z280 and Z271 are really one.

??271?.  Did you mean z291?  If so, I agree. He remains turned from z280 to z291 because we can see the top of his head remaining in the same position.  It is not in that position in z279 and before that we cannot see Greer's head as it is blocked by the windshield frame/sun visor. There is no other turn until z301-303 which lasts to about z317.  So the turn at z280-291, which is when JBC falls back onto his wife, is definitely the one before the third shot and the one he described as having been made immediately after the second shot.

Greer just momentarily looks ahead to check his steering. Greer simply didn't remember the brief turn forward, or thought it unimportant. His head is largely hidden by the windshield and rear-view mirror in many of the frames between the Stemmons sign and the Z270s, so he could have looked back earlier than Z280.

Yes, he could have looked back earlier but he would not have seen JBC falling back onto his wife then.  He described his last two turns in relation to the shots he heard.  On the first of those last two turns, he saw JBC falling.  That has to be the turn from z280-291.  He turned forward beginning about z291 and turned back again from z301-303, less than a second later which is when the third shot occurred.

Kellerman said he turned around to see the President with his hands at his throat. He does a sharp leftward head-turn about Z252-Z290.

Mr. SPECTER. You just indicated that you had turned to the left.
          Had you turned to the left after hearing his voice?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes; certainly.
Mr. SPECTER. And what did you see? You have described what
          you saw in terms of position of his hands.
Mr. KELLERMAN. That was it.

Kellerman did not indicate there was a shot fired while he was looking backwards.

Kellerman is looking back while JBC is falling back onto his wife. He didn't comment on seeing that either.

"Computer says: No."

You did a 3D model to prove this? My computer says your computer hasn't done its homework. Anyone looking at your supposed 3D view will see that the trajectory through JFK is left to right, not right to left:


A left-to-right shot could not have come from the TSBD.

I think Hickey is probably talking about the headshot ("hair flew forward"). Could have heard the impact on the head and the sound of the rifle report a split-second later as two shots ("there seemed to be practically no time element between them"). Kennedy's head went backwards and to the left, sort of in the direction of Hickey, so he would have perceived less of the head snap and more of the hair (scalp) flying away. Hearing the rifle report, he then sees the President's much-larger overall movements and thinks it's a reaction to a bullet strike.


Hickey couldn't see the little hair flutter in the Z270s

Hickey would have disagreed with you. He said he saw it and he was not looking forward until after z256.

[Bill Chapman]

Myers match to Zapruder
-David Emerling

[Andrew Mason]

Myers match to Zapruder
-David Emerling

The following is evident from Myers supposed reconstruction.

1. Myers recognizes that there has to be a space between the hands in order for the bullet to go from JFK to JBC.  So he makes the space. The problem is that the space does not appear in z226, or z225 or z224.

2. Myers shows the two men in the correct lateral position but never explains how this puts JBC's right armpit left of JFK's midline at all, let alone a distance sufficient to have the bullet, moving right to left at about 9-10 degrees strike it. 

Myers refuses to show us the 3D model from above and refuses to show the path being a straight line going from JBC's right armpit, through JFK and back to the SN.  He refuses to discuss the angle used for his so-called bullet trajectory.  I did a 3D model based on a scale map of Dealey Plaza. It shows that a line from the SN through JFK's neck goes well to the left of JBC's right armpit at z197:




At z225 it is a bit better for the SBT but JBC is not turned as much if at all and the bullet strikes JBC in the middle of the spine:

[Bill Chapman]

@Andrew

The bullet has already passed through by the time the hands start to rise
Unless you believe that JFK's hands were faster than a speeding bullet




'Faster than a speeding bullet'

[Andrew Mason]

@Andrew

The bullet has already passed through by the time the hands start to rise
Unless you believe that JFK's hands were faster than a speeding bullet

There was no space between JFK's hands in z224 either.  If the shot passed through him during frame z224, how do you suppose it missed his hands, wrists and forearms?  Someone should at least be able to demonstrate the trajectory from his neck to JBC's right armpit that misses his arms/hands.  So far as I can tell, no second-shot SBT proponent has done this.

[Tim Nickerson]

There was no space between JFK's hands in z224 either.  If the shot passed through him during frame z224, how do you suppose it missed his hands, wrists and forearms?  Someone should at least be able to demonstrate the trajectory from his neck to JBC's right armpit that misses his arms/hands.  So far as I can tell, no second-shot SBT proponent has done this.

I didn't pass through him at Z224. It passed through a frame or two before that.

[Gary Craig]

I didn't pass through him at Z224. It passed through a frame or two before that.

Phil Willis put a time stamp on the first shot by clicking the shutter on his camera when the sound

of that shot startled him. About Z-205

Mr. WILLIS. No, sir; I took that picture just seconds before the first shot was fired, to get back close up. Then I started down the street, and the regular weekly edition of Life magazine came out and shows me in about three different pictures going down the street. Then my next shot was taken at the very--in fact, the shot caused me to squeeze the camera shutter, and I got a picture of the President as he was hit with the first shot. So instantaneous, in fact, that the crowd hadn't had time to react.

A shot at Z-223 would require a second gunman.

The alleged murder weapon couldn't be fired fast enough to be responsible for both shots.

18.5 frames from the Z film took 1 second.

The fastest time to physically fire and rechamber another bullet with the Carcano was 2 1/2 seconds.

That equals about 46 frames of the Z-film.

Z-205 to Z-223 = 18 frames = second gunman = conspiracy.