Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #140 on: January 07, 2019, 09:56:22 PM »

Since you so enthusiastically endorse William Manchester's book..... 
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In 2017, research into Manchester's life story revealed that he had fabricated many details about his academic accomplishments, war record, and military honors. [17] These revelations cast into doubt much of what Manchester had written in his memoir Goodbye Darkness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Manchester

 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #141 on: January 07, 2019, 10:51:34 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Manchester

I strongly suspect that William Manchester was a Hoover lackey..... If not actually on Hoover's payroll....

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #142 on: January 07, 2019, 11:07:24 PM »
Just opened the book to a random page....

Since you so enthusiastically endorse William Manchester's book Death of a President...Take a look at page 280....

Notice that at 12:45 ..... Quote...."Oswald's description , based on observation of eyewitness Brennan is broadcast over channel 2 by Inspector Sawyer from radio car in front of Depository" ...Unquote

What was that description??   Did that description fit Lee Oswald?   And What kind of weapon did Sawyer say the suspect was armed with?


Sawyer:...  "The person wanted in this is a slender white male about thirty , five feet ten, one sixth five carrying what looked to be a 30 -30 or some type of Winchester."

Then at 12:47 / 12 :48 P.M...Quote..." ( Oswald) enters cab at Greyhound bus station, 3 1/2 blocks from bus . rides in silence beside driver." /i]... Unquote

What time was it when William Whaley the  Cab Driver took the passenger into his cab?.... And how was that man dressed?....   Did the man fit the description that Inspector Sawyer had broadcast?


Is this what you consider bombastic prose by Wm. Manchester? Appears to be very sensible and backed by excellent research.

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #143 on: January 07, 2019, 11:13:25 PM »
Sawyer:...  "The person wanted in this is a slender white male about thirty , five feet ten, one sixth five carrying what looked to be a 30 -30 or some type of Winchester."

Sawyer's description that Manchester acknowledges he got from Howard Brennan prior to 12:45 ...could fit dozens of young men that were in Dealey plaza ....  But the description did not fit Lee Oswald,,,,Lee had just turned 24 years old, He was 5 ' 9" tall and weighed 131 pounds....and the rifle that was found in the TSBD was NOT a 30-30 Winchester or some other type of hunting rifle....It was an old Italian military rifle with a wooden stock that cover 90% of the metal barrel....  It sure as hell could not be mistaken for a 30-30 Winchester or any hunting rifle.

 :D :D You're a riot, Cakebread. I bet you even loose when arguing with yourself.

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #144 on: January 07, 2019, 11:15:45 PM »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #145 on: January 07, 2019, 11:47:02 PM »

Is this what you consider bombastic prose by Wm. Manchester? Appears to be very sensible and backed by excellent research.

No, I do not consider the excerpt from DOAP  "Bombastic".... I simply opened the book it opened at page 280  so I quoted what I saw...

So you do agree that Manchester's account of the DPD radio broadcast by Inspector Sawyer at 12:45 PM  is accurate ??... 

That's very good... because it refutes the idea that Lee Oswald was the gunman that Howard Brennan saw...

First off... Lee Oswald was 24 years old.... Second...He did NOT weigh anywhere near 165 ponds... (he weighed 131 lbs) but the most obvious part of the description is the FACT that Brennan described a hunting rifle ( possibly a 30-30 Winchester) as the man's weapon...
It is an irrefutable FACT that the FBI has claimed that the murder weapon was an old Italian military rifle, a 6.5mm Mannlicher Carcano. The carcano has the entire barrel covered  by a wooden stock....whereas the 30-30 has the entire shiny metal barrel exposed, so there's NO WAY anybody could call a carcano a 30-30 Winchester....

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #146 on: January 07, 2019, 11:53:26 PM »
:D :D You're a riot, Cakebread. I bet you even loose when arguing with yourself.

You're right....  I do examine a point... and sometimes I'm compelled to reject a theory after "arguing" with myself