Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy

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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #133 on: January 07, 2019, 03:17:22 AM »
I agree. I've got a copy. A must read for anyone interested in the Kennedy assassination.

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2009/10/death-of-a-president200910
A CLASH OF CAMELOTS
Within months of J.F.K.?s death, the president?s widow asked William Manchester to write the authorized account of the assassination. He felt he couldn?t refuse her. Two years later, nearly broken by the task, Manchester found himself fighting a bitter, headline-making battle with Jackie and Bobby Kennedy over the finished book. The author chronicles the toll Manchester?s 1967 best-seller, The Death of a President, exacted?physically, emotionally, and financially?before it all but disappeared.
BY SAM KASHNER
OCTOBER 2009

....For two days before the burial, the line of citizens waiting to file by the catafalque reached five miles, snaking through the chill, solemn streets of the capital. For the procession from the Rotunda to St. Matthew?s Cathedral, where the funeral Mass was held, Mrs. Kennedy didn?t want to ride in one of the government?s black Cadillacs, so she walked, leading a delegation from 92 nations. Charles de Gaulle, who towered over the other heads of state as they followed the horse-drawn caisson down Constitution Avenue, later reflected that President Kennedy?s widow ?gave the world an example of how to behave.? Manchester later noted that, in the hours after the tragedy, ?Jacqueline Kennedy was virtually the government of this country and held it together.? After the assassination, she had stood beside Lyndon B. Johnson in her blood-splattered Chanel suit as he was sworn into office. Now, at the president?s funeral, in her black widow?s garb, she symbolized the nation?s grief. For five years in a row, a Gallup poll named her ?the most admired woman in the world.?

Following the ordeal of the funeral, Jacqueline resolved to leave the White House as quickly as possible. Before departing, she had a plaque inscribed with the words ?In this room lived John Fitzgerald Kennedy, with his wife Jacqueline, during the two years, ten months, and two days he was president of the United States? and placed it in the Lincoln bedroom. (The Nixons would later have the plaque removed.) Eleven days after the funeral, Jacqueline sought refuge at her temporary home at 3038 N Street, in Georgetown.

Beset by writers clamoring for interviews, Jacqueline decided to designate one to produce the official story of the assassination. In part, she wanted to stop Jim Bishop, a syndicated columnist living in Florida, who was already preparing a book. He was the author of The Day Lincoln Was Shot and a just-finished book, A Day in the Life of President Kennedy, but according to Arthur Schlesinger Jr., the Pulitzer Prize?winning historian and special assistant to Kennedy, the First Lady considered Bishop a ?hack? who asked too many personal questions. She preferred that no book be written, but as that was impossible, she went in search of an author.

William Manchester was not her first choice. Theodore H. White, a family favorite (The Making of the President 1960), and Walter Lord (A Night to Remember) turned her down. Then Pierre Salinger, the Kennedys? press secretary, suggested Manchester, a onetime foreign correspondent for the Baltimore Sun and the author of novels and nonfiction books on H.L. Mencken, the Rockefellers, and President Kennedy....

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #134 on: January 07, 2019, 03:23:38 AM »
Death of a President was one of the first books I read about the murder of JFK....That was decades ago ( I've read it a couple of times)  and I'm still puzzled by the way Manchester related and described events....  The prose seemed to be so flamboyant and bombastic that I've long wondered if Manchester was writing with tongue in cheek.... I reached the conclusion that Machester wanted to reveal information that he could only impart if he made it sound implausible ......

He was writing with an intelligent audience in mind. He didn't dumb it down.

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #135 on: January 07, 2019, 02:38:06 PM »
He was writing with an intelligent audience in mind. He didn't dumb it down.

Anything above Dr. Seuss The Cat in the Hat would be considered bombastic by Cakebread.

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #136 on: January 07, 2019, 07:53:12 PM »
Anything above Dr. Seuss The Cat in the Hat would be considered bombastic by Cakebread.

Just opened the book to a random page....

Since you so enthusiastically endorse William Manchester's book Death of a President...Take a look at page 280....

Notice that at 12:45 ..... Quote...."Oswald's description , based on observation of eyewitness Brennan is broadcast over channel 2 by Inspector Sawyer from radio car in front of Depository" ...Unquote

What was that description??   Did that description fit Lee Oswald?   And What kind of weapon did Sawyer say the suspect was armed with?


Sawyer:...  "The person wanted in this is a slender white male about thirty , five feet ten, one sixth five carrying what looked to be a 30 -30 or some type of Winchester."

Then at 12:47 / 12 :48 P.M...Quote..." ( Oswald) enters cab at Greyhound bus station, 3 1/2 blocks from bus . rides in silence beside driver." /i]... Unquote

What time was it when William Whaley the  Cab Driver took the passenger into his cab?.... And how was that man dressed?....   Did the man fit the description that Inspector Sawyer had broadcast?

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Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #137 on: January 07, 2019, 08:26:43 PM »
I did not do it
say's Lee with glee
I could not see
through that tree

I could not run
down 3 sets of stairs
tricking my coworkers
who were unawares

I did not run
or shoot a cop
I wanted to see
another Heflin flop

Now taken in
this is no fun
so now they say
they found my gun

 ;D ;D

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #138 on: January 07, 2019, 09:38:53 PM »
Anything above Dr. Seuss The Cat in the Hat would be considered bombastic by Cakebread.

Are you promoting your favorite book again , Navarro?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #139 on: January 07, 2019, 09:51:33 PM »
Just opened the book to a random page....

Since you so enthusiastically endorse William Manchester's book Death of a President...Take a look at page 280....

Notice that at 12:45 ..... Quote...."Oswald's description , based on observation of eyewitness Brennan is broadcast over channel 2 by Inspector Sawyer from radio car in front of Depository" ...Unquote

What was that description??   Did that description fit Lee Oswald?   And What kind of weapon did Sawyer say the suspect was armed with?


Sawyer:...  "The person wanted in this is a slender white male about thirty , five feet ten, one sixth five carrying what looked to be a 30 -30 or some type of Winchester."

Then at 12:47 / 12 :48 P.M...Quote..." ( Oswald) enters cab at Greyhound bus station, 3 1/2 blocks from bus . rides in silence beside driver." /i]... Unquote

What time was it when William Whaley the  Cab Driver took the passenger into his cab?.... And how was that man dressed?....   Did the man fit the description that Inspector Sawyer had broadcast?

Sawyer:...  "The person wanted in this is a slender white male about thirty , five feet ten, one sixth five carrying what looked to be a 30 -30 or some type of Winchester."

Sawyer's description that Manchester acknowledges he got from Howard Brennan prior to 12:45 ...could fit dozens of young men that were in Dealey plaza ....  But the description did not fit Lee Oswald,,,,Lee had just turned 24 years old, He was 5 ' 9" tall and weighed 131 pounds....and the rifle that was found in the TSBD was NOT a 30-30 Winchester or some other type of hunting rifle....It was an old Italian military rifle with a wooden stock that cover 90% of the metal barrel....  It sure as hell could not be mistaken for a 30-30 Winchester or any hunting rifle.