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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #238 on: December 20, 2018, 02:26:23 PM »
Solid evidence of what, exactly?  You tried to pass that off as having something to do with the Hidell name.

Not it's not.  Handwriting "analysis" is subjective and biased.  Handwriting "analysis" of 2 block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy of a 2-inch order coupon is even more subjective and biased.

Based on her looking at his eyes and kind of falling over -- not his face or how he was dressed.

Not of murder.  Markham was the only one of them who saw Tippit shot.

Evidence that shells on a floor were fired by a rifle on the floor?  Yes....

Which ones?  The ones that Poe's initial disappeared from, or the one that was handed to the police at the station in a wad of kleenex?

What makes you think CE-399 ever went through Kennedy or Connally?  What even makes you think that CE399 was the bullet that Tomlinson said he found on an unrelated stretcher at Parkland Hospital?

Setting aside that there is no documented chain of custody for how these fragments (which were allegedly found by a Navy corpman and a secret service agent tampering with a crime scene before FBI crime scene analysts arrived) actually got to FBI agent Frazier, what does this tell you about who fired the shot(s) that produced these fragments?

Oswald had no revolver on him when he was arrested.  By the time he was arrested, somebody had grabbed a gun out of McDonald's hand and McDonald didn't even know who that was.  I think what you mean is that V510210 was pulled out of Gerald Hill's pocket at the station 2 hours later.

Well, let's see.  So far you've managed to implicate a rifle that fired a couple of fragments that you think were in the limo.  Is that it?

I know of no example of Oswald ever using Hidell as an alias for himself.  Why is why I asked.  You said there were a dozen examples.  All I know is that an ID card that nobody mentioned at the time eventually turned up.

JohnI, all you've demonstrated by the responses is that you're not serious about requesting evidence. This is just a stupid little game you, Mark and that other fella play so that you can pretend to be Perry Mason wannabees. It might impress the members of the cult and the uninitiated but reasonable people don't swallow the  BS: I'll spare the members of the forum and the guest of answering every one of your silly responses and settle on the following responses which clearly demonstrate your ignorance or disingenuousness, or both.

Based on her looking at his eyes and kind of falling over -- not his face or how he was dressed.

Mr. BALL. No. I wanted to know if that day when you were in there if you saw anyone in there--
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two.
Mr. BALL. What did you say when you saw number two?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Well, let me tell you. I said the second man, and they kept asking me which one, which one. I said, number two. When I said number two, I just got weak.
Mr. BALL. What about number two, what did you mean when you said number two?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two was the man I saw shoot the policeman.
Mr. BALL. You recognized him from his appearance?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I asked--I looked at him. When I saw this man I wasn't sure, but I had cold chills just run all over me.
Mr. BALL. When you saw him?
Mrs. MARKHAM. When I saw the man. But I wasn't sure, so, you see, I told them I wanted to be sure, and looked, at his face is what I was looking at, mostly is what I looked at, on account of his eyes, the way he looked at me. So I asked them if they would turn him sideways. They did, and then they turned him back around, and I said the second, and they said, which one, and I said number two. So when I said that, well, I just kind of fell over. Everybody in there, you know, was beginning to talk, and I don't know, just--
Mr. BALL. Did you recognize him from his clothing?
Mrs. MARKHAM. He had on a light short jacket, dark trousers. I looked at his clothing, but I looked at his face, too.
Mr. BALL. Did he have the same clothing on that the man had that you saw shoot the officer?
Mrs. MARKHAM. He had, these dark trousers on.
Mr. BALL. Did he have a jacket or a shirt? The man that you saw shoot Officer Tippit and run away, did you notice if he had a jacket on?
Mrs. MARKHAM. He had a jacket on when he done it.
Mr. BALL. What kind of a jacket, what general color of jacket?
Mrs. MARKHAM. It was a short jacket open in the front, kind of a grayish tan.
Mr. BALL. Did you tell the police that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, I did.


Contrary to your incorrect version of Markham's testimony she testified to recognizing Oswald by looking at his face, from a sidewiew and by the dark trousers he was wearing.

Which ones?  The ones that Poe's initial disappeared from, or the one that was handed to the police at the station in a wad of kleenex?

All four shells were traced to Oswald's S&W 38 Special and the two shells picked up by the Davis girls had a complete chain of evidence. Your referencing Benavides shells that he placed in a cigarette pack as somehow not being evidence becuase of questionable chain of evidence might work in a courtroom but that would still leave you with the Davis girls shells. In addition bullets recovered from Tippit's body were of Western-Winchester and Remington-Peters manufacture the same as the shells recovered from the crime scene and found in Oswald's S&W revolver and in his pocket.

Oswald had no revolver on him when he was arrested.  By the time he was arrested, somebody had grabbed a gun out of McDonald's hand and McDonald didn't even know who that was.  I think what you mean is that V510210 was pulled out of Gerald Hill's pocket at the station 2 hours later.

The above statement has to win the award for silliness. During interrogation Oswald admitted to having a gun.

"When Captain Fritz asked him why he carried the revolver, he answered, "Well, you know about a pistol. I just carried it." WR, pg 181

I know of no example of Oswald ever using Hidell as an alias for himself.  Why is why I asked.  You said there were a dozen examples.  All I know is that an ID card that nobody mentioned at the time eventually turned up.

I said there were a dozen example of Oswald using Hidell as an alias and that included other names. I never claimed there were any witnesses that could identify Oswald as using Hidell to represent himself. There is the example of Oswald using O. H. Lee as an alias for himself and the probable example of Oswald using Osborne as himself when he ordered and picked up the FPCC flyers in NO.

I just thought of a possible example that would fit your criteria. Railway Express shipped the revolver C.O.D. It's entirely possible, and even probable, that Oswald had to produce the Hidell ID to the RE courier in order to receive the package before paying cash for the balance owed.

Your question implies there was forging of documents by the DPD to implicate Oswald in the murder of Tippit. Now it's your turn to provide evidence that would either prove or lead a reasonable person to conclude that the DPD would forge documents in order to implicate Oswald in the murder of Tippit. If you decide to evade the question for some silly reason then why even bring up the issue of the Hidell ID?











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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #239 on: December 20, 2018, 02:30:42 PM »
Is this the shirt? The striping looks white to me.



Great, now all you have to do is prove that the guy in the taxi was wearing this shirt.

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #240 on: December 20, 2018, 02:33:02 PM »
No, super laid. I'm still stuttering after just drilling my girlfriend.
Now you'll all be dreaming about tittitities tonight.

You're welcome.

 ;)

Do you deflate her afterwards?

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #241 on: December 20, 2018, 02:43:22 PM »

they're members of a cult.

Yes..as part of our creed.....We routinely recite...  "With Liberry and JUSTICE for all"......

Oswald was charged with the murders of Tippitt and JFK. He was given every opportunity to be represented by counsel while under arrest. The DPD failed to protect Oswald during his transfer to a more secure jail but that can be laid at the foot of incompetence than of deliberate maliciousness.

When it comes to the cult, you specifically, in your misguided efforts to exonerate Saint Oswald you trample over the injustice done in that process to dozens of individuals falsely implicated in a coverup and/or, as you're so fond of saying, a coup d'?tat.  Your lot should be ashamed of yourselves specially those shameless individuals who sought and seek to profit from this tragedy for personal gain.

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« Reply #242 on: December 20, 2018, 03:02:03 PM »
So Oswald's use of an alias at his boardinghouse is evidence of his being an "intelligence agent" because they register at hotels under assumed names.  And you know this from what?  Watching old spy movies?

Do you listen to the news or read newspapers?   It's common practice for intelligence agents to use an alias...

But even if you aren't aware of this fact.... Most folks with just one iota of commonsense can see the logic of a secret agent using an alias....

I think you have watched too many "Secret Squirrel" and "Morocco Mole" cartoons.  Why would someone working for the FBI or CIA need an alias while in the US?  Who would they be hiding from? 

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« Reply #243 on: December 20, 2018, 03:07:16 PM »
Oswald was charged with the murders of Tippitt and JFK. He was given every opportunity to be represented by counsel while under arrest. The DPD failed to protect Oswald during his transfer to a more secure jail but that can be laid at the foot of incompetence than of deliberate maliciousness.

When it comes to the cult, you specifically, in your misguided efforts to exonerate Saint Oswald you trample over the injustice done in that process to dozens of individuals falsely implicated in a coverup and/or, as you're so fond of saying, a coup d'?tat.  Your lot should be ashamed of yourselves specially those shameless individuals who sought and seek to profit from this tragedy for personal gain.

You're waaaaay off course Mr Navarro.....   Why don't you try to get back on track, and Let's discuss and examine  the EVIDENCE...

In the above tirade you're dealing with the abstract, and emotions....

  Tell me again how the "fleeing" arch villain, and devil's handy man, Lee Harrrrrvey Osssswald  ( booooo hissss) managed to reach across a five foot span with an 8 pound rifle and lay that heavy rifle on the floor beneath a pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it. ...and then place boxes of books over the top of the opening so that the rifle was completely hidden at he bottom of an enclosed cavern.


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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #244 on: December 20, 2018, 03:20:23 PM »
You're waaaaay off course Mr Navarro.....   Why don't you try to get back on track, and Let's discuss and examine  the EVIDENCE...

In the above tirade you're dealing with the abstract, and emotions....

  Tell me again how the "fleeing" arch villain, and devil's handy man, Lee Harrrrrvey Osssswald  ( booooo hissss) managed to reach across a five foot span with an 8 pound rifle and lay that heavy rifle on the floor beneath a pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it. ...and then place boxes of books over the top of the opening so that the rifle was completely hidden at he bottom of an enclosed cavern.

How tall do you think someone would have to be to do this?  And your fantasy giant went unnoticed in the TSBD?