The confusing recollection of Jack Dougherty

[Tom Scully]

Uh not really. The copy and paste crap is serpentine. What is up with that? Can we put what we are trying to say in 25 words or less?

It seems to require an uncurious approach to disparage well supported, original research as "The copy and paste crap".
I look for collaborators interested in attempting to build further on building blocks I present in my posts. Few and far
between there are able, open minded researchers I have encountered who are seeking accurate information unimpaired by an
ingrained agenda.

And Jerry, you could have chosen to offer a  gracious thank you for finding and presenting what you were unable to locate,,,
some Evidence of Jack Dougherty's employment before military enlistmnent.

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Doughtery made no sense and  asst counsel Ball made no sense. Ball didn't even establish what had happened to four years of JDs life after he left high school in 1937! However that might be answered with the picture below.
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The bottom image in my last post includes. "Employer: A And P Store"

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/doughert.htm
...Mr. BALL - What year did you get out of high school? About?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Oh, 1937.
Mr. BALL - 1937?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - What kind of work did you do after that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, of course, a year or so, you might say--just work in grocery stores until I was 19 and volunteered for the Armed Services in October--October 24, 1942.
Mr. BALL - How long were you in the service?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - 2 years, 1 month, 17 days, to be exact..

LOL.... the esteemed Doug Horne, in RATHER LENGTHY reaction to proveable fact opposite his deeply ingrained beliefs.:
My (brief, in comparison) book review (User ID Rational Voice) at this link:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RWKKPDXQXFKPD/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1510708928
Horne's "comment" is on second page of comments located below my review.:
Not linkable, but access by clicking this at the bottom of first page of 13 comments.:



IOW, Jerry, your post indicates you are unappreciative of intricate UNIQUE, verifiable detail unearthed with considerable effort,
in favor of a comic book formatted presentation?

[John Iacoletti]

Tom?s well sourced documentation is a refreshing change from the usual speculation, opinion, and posturing that mostly goes on here.

[Walt Cakebread]

Tom?s well sourced documentation is a refreshing change from the usual speculation, opinion, and posturing that mostly goes on here.

So you like Tom's posts.... What has Scully done to advance your knowledge?   Are you any closer to uncovering the truth because of Scully's scholarly  satire.

"You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is non existent.".....

[Colin Crow]

Jack claimed to have gone back to work just before the shots. He said after a brief stop on the 6th floor he ventured down to the 5th to get some stock when he heard a loud noise. Is it possible that he originally went to the 5th to continue working and after a short period heard the loud noise and took the elevator to the 6th to investigate?

[Walt Cakebread]

Jack claimed to have gone back to work just before the shots. He said after a brief stop on the 6th floor he ventured down to the 5th to get some stock when he heard a loud noise. Is it possible that he originally went to the 5th to continue working and after a short period heard the loud noise and took the elevator to the 6th to investigate?

Colin....Surely you're aware that Dougherty's testimony about his whereabouts between 12:00 and 1:00 is useless.   He was so scared that he couldn't respond to simple questions .....  Like if he served outside of the US during his enlistment in the Army.     You should simply ignore his nonsense....  and ask yourself WHY was Jack Dougherty so terrified??   If anybody had reason to be petrified into babbling nonsense it would have been Lee Oswald. ( and particularly so if he had been guilty. 

So Lee answers accusing questions put to him in a calm and rational manner....But Dougherty can't even answer innocuous questions in a rational manner.   

[Zeon Mason]

If West elevator is used by a shooter or shooters on the 6th floor it had to have been boarded by 10 sec post shots in order to have any probable chance of reaching 1st floor by 45 sec posts shots, just before Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles reach the 1st floor by 60 sec post shots. This presumes an elevator avg. speed of 1 floor per 7 secs. So 35 seconds from 6th floor to 1st floor.

The West elevator  would have to immediately be returned back up to 5th floor and be there by approx 75 second post shots, to be seen there by Truly looking up the elevator shaft.

From 1st to 5th floor requring about 28 seconds, is possible therefore, for the West elevator to be back on the 5th floor at 73 sec post shots. JUST IN TIME!

But can the West elevator be "sent' back up by someone just having used it, by pushing a button, and it returns itself, or does this elevator require someone be IN the elevator to operate it?

[Tom Scully]

If West elevator is used by a shooter or shooters on the 6th floor it had to have been boarded by 10 sec post shots in order to have any probable chance of reaching 1st floor by 45 sec posts shots, just before Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles reach the 1st floor by 60 sec post shots. This presumes an elevator avg. speed of 1 floor per 7 secs. So 35 seconds from 6th floor to 1st floor.

The West elevator  would have to immediately be returned back up to 5th floor and be there by approx 75 second post shots, to be seen there by Truly looking up the elevator shaft.

From 1st to 5th floor requring about 28 seconds, is possible therefore, for the West elevator to be back on the 5th floor at 73 sec post shots. JUST IN TIME!

But can the West elevator be "sent' back up by someone just having used it, by pushing a button, and it returns itself, or does this elevator require someone be IN the elevator to operate it?

Jack's boss at Goodwill Ind., in 1952 might have been able to answer some of your questions.

https://www.dallasnews.com/obituaries/obituaries/2015/09/11/bob-heath-who-built-on-legacy-of-dallas-medical-society-dies-at-83
Bob Heath, who built on legacy of Dallas Medical Society, dies at 83
Sept., 2015

...Heath was born in Dallas, where he graduated from Sunset High School in 1949. His father, Millard Heath, an ordained Methodist minister, was a leader in juvenile services and a founder of Goodwill Industries. He became executive director of the medical society in 1946.

Bob Heath attended Arlington State College, now the University of Texas at Arlington. In 1951, he married his childhood sweetheart, Vanita Dickenson.

Heath worked for two companies in Dallas after he served in the Naval Reserves during the Korean War.

He was with Goodwill Industries in Dallas in 1960, when the agency named him executive director of its operation in Jacksonville, Fla. He returned to Dallas in 1966 as director of rehabilitation and personnel of Goodwill Industries here.
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Jack's boss Roy Truly at TSBD openly testified that Jack was intelligent. Better yet, it seems likely it is intentional
we are in the dark today as to Jack's true potential and abilities
and are unaware whether Jack was personally acquainted with his former boss, Millard J. Heath.

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Two gentlemen of the same surname were Dallas Goodwill executices, Jasper and Millard Heath, two years after
the 1937 establishment of Goodwill Ind. in Dallas. The 1930 US census describes Millard J Heath as self employed Elevator Mechanic,
with wife Mary and son, Billy. In 1940, Millard's census entry includes wife Mary and son, Billy and Millard's position with Goodwill:
1940 US census image link.:
http://jfkdebate.com/images/RubyCrafardGoodwllMillarJheathGoodwill1940Census.jpg


At the time of Millard J Heath's death in 1978, his death certificate describes Heath as Executive Director of the Dallas Medical Soc.: