Bill Shelley on Steps

[Alan Ford]

Now!

Mr. BALL - Do you have any idea how long it was from the time you heard those three sounds or three noises until you saw Truly and Baker going into the building?
Mr. SHELLEY - It would have to be 3 or 4 minutes I would say because this girl that ran back up there was down near where the car was when the President was hit.
Mr. BALL - She ran back up to the door and you had still remained standing there?
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes.

Mr. BALL - You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say.
Mr. BALL - Three minutes is a long time.

It is----------let us remind ourselves-----------passing strange that we have gone from Messrs. Shelley and Lovelady's same-day statements to the above.

Here's what's in those same-day statements:

"I ran across the street to the corner of the park and ran into a girl crying and she said the President had been shot. This girl's name is Gloria Calvery who is an employee of this same building." (Bill Shelley affidavit, 11/22/63)
-----------No room for ambiguity here: he met his good friend Ms Calvery out at 'the corner of the park'!

"He said immediately after hearing the shots he and SHELL(E)Y started running towards the Presidential car, but it sped away west on Elm Street under the Triple Underpass." (Billy Lovelady FBI report, 11/22/63).
-----------No room for ambiguity here: the pair left the steps very quickly indeed!

On any scenario------------Ms Calvery dashed back to the Depository before Officer Baker got there; Ms Calvery took some time to reach the Depository; Ms Calvery met Mr Shelley on the 'island' but Mr Lovelady at the steps; etc.----------no serious person could doubt that Messrs. Shelley and Lovelady are in cahoots to hide something from the WC.

Passing strange also is the pair's similarly elastic time estimate of how long their supposed visit to the railroad yard took.

Passing strange also also is the fact that Mr Lovelady shows up------contrary to every impression his statements have given-------on the front steps several minutes later in the Hughes film.

There must be serious doubt over whether Mr Shelley was actually on those steps when the motorcade was passing.

Did Mr Shelley hear after the assassination that Ms Calvery had come to the steps loudly telling everyone about what she'd seen? Did Mr Lovelady tell hm? Did he then decide to profit from the fact that he and Ms Calvery were good friends by inventing an encounter with her that would lend extra credibility to his own story of having been on the steps? And did this initial lie come back to haunt him? 

Most importantly of all! Why would he have been so anxious to place himself out on the steps at the time of the assassination?

I can't help wondering whether the key to this might not lie in the words Captain Fritz cribbed from Agent Bookhout:
'out with Bill Shelley in front'

[Alan Ford]

Alternatively!

Mr Shelley was on those steps for the assassination, but immediately slipped back inside, and was one of the "several people standing around" in the front lobby seen by Officer Baker (Affidavit, 11/22/63) when he dashed into the building.*

Did Mr Shelley see something there in the vestibule he shouldn't have? Did his boss Mr Truly later that day prevail upon him to 'stay the hell outside' in the story he told to the authorities?


*Note that Mr Roy Truly would contradict Baker when talking to the FBI: "They saw no one there (in the front lobby, AF)"!

[Alan Ford]

Question!

Would one be right in saying that 'Gloria Calvery's' left hand is on the column in the Darnell frames?

[Alan Ford]

Alternatively!

Mr Shelley was on those steps for the assassination, but immediately slipped back inside, and was one of the "several people standing around" in the front lobby seen by Officer Baker (Affidavit, 11/22/63) when he dashed into the building.*

Did Mr Shelley see something there in the vestibule he shouldn't have? Did his boss Mr Truly later that day prevail upon him to 'stay the hell outside' in the story he told to the authorities?


*Note that Mr Roy Truly would contradict Baker when talking to the FBI: "They saw no one there (in the front lobby, AF)"!

Friends, it would appear that the bind Messrs Shelley and Lovelady find themselves in as they appear before the WC comes down to the following:

1. They have to include Ms Gloria Calvery's telling of what she's just seen out on the street
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2. They have to be down and away from those steps before Messrs Truly and Baker enter the Depository.

This leads them into the absurd 3-4 minute estimate for the latter!

Something is stopping them from simply sticking to Mr Shelley's original story (Affidavit 11/22/63) of running into Ms Calvery out at the corner of the 'park'.

It cannot be Ms Vickie Adams------------if the re-entry to the Depository building needs to be made as late as possible in order to discredit Ms Adams, then a couple of extra minutes can easily be added to their (supposed) railroad yard foray.

No, something else is forcing them into the Truly/Baker @ 3-4 minute lie...

[Alan Ford]

Mr. BAKER. On the first floor there were two men. As we came through the main doorway to the elevators, I remember as we tried to get on the elevators I remember two men, one was sitting on this side and another one between 20 or 30 feet away from us looking at us.
Mr. DULLES. Were they white men?
Mr. BAKER. Yes, sir.

Was one of these white men Mr Bill Shelley?

Read the testimony of Mr Eddie Piper and Mr Troy West and you get a sense of just how toxic that shipping floor seems to have been to the official story!

[Alan Ford]

There is definitely someone behind Mr Billy Lovelady here just as the President is coming onto Elm Street.



Is this somebody Prayer Man or----------perhaps-----------Mr Bill Shelley?

If the latter, then Hughes would appear to be showing us the scene as remembered by Mr Buell Wesley Frazier in his WC testimony:

Mr. Shelley was standing, you know, back from the top step and over toward the side of the wall there. See, he was standing right over there, and then Billy was a couple of steps down from me over toward more the wall also.

 

[Jerry Freeman]

Mr Freeman, I'm merely suggesting that taking Mr Shelley off those steps explains a number of problems with his story. As to where that leads, well how about we start with the question, Why would he lie about this?--------and see where it takes us... 

After this many posts...where did it take us? Where is it proven that Shelley actually lied? He could have simply been mistaken or had a failure to recall....like a lot of top cops did.