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Offline John Mytton

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2018, 06:58:38 PM »
More distractions. Fritz' claims do not trump the man who would have given LHO the transfer. This is why the authorities should have recorded and made a stenographic record of these supposed interviews with LHO.

You're sunk Mytton. Live with it.

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More distractions. Fritz' claims do not trump the man who would have given LHO the transfer.

So when you misquote Fritz it's supporting evidence and when I correct your mistake it's a distraction, no wonder nobody wants you on their Forums.

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This is why the authorities should have recorded and made a stenographic record of these supposed interviews with LHO.


Oswald denied the rifle.
Oswald denied the backyard photos
Oswald denied killing Kennedy
Oswald denied killing Tippit.

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You're sunk Mytton. Live with it.

Yeah yeah as you keep saying but everytime you say I'm sunk you are no closer to a solution, go figure.

JohnM

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2018, 10:26:19 PM »
So when you misquote Fritz it's supporting evidence and when I correct your mistake it's a distraction, no wonder nobody wants you on their Forums.
 

Oswald denied the rifle.
Oswald denied the backyard photos
Oswald denied killing Kennedy
Oswald denied killing Tippit.

Yeah yeah as you keep saying but everytime you say I'm sunk you are no closer to a solution, go figure.

JohnM

Where did I misquote Fritz? So you have nothing. Got it.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2018, 10:58:20 PM »
Where did I misquote Fritz? So you have nothing. Got it.

Fritz tells us that after Oswald was caught lying, Oswald admitted catching a bus and cab but you just want to deceive us by not quoting what Fritz goes on to say and only quote lies that Oswald himself admitted were lies.

JohnM
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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2018, 11:17:05 PM »
Fritz tells us that after Oswald was caught lying, Oswald admitted catching a bus and cab but you just want to deceive us by not quoting what Fritz goes on to say and only quote lies that Oswald himself admitted were lies.

JohnM

So you just take Fritz' word for it, huh? Do you have any supporting evidence for the Fritz claim regarding LHO lying?

The irony of course is *you* quoted the part I quoted in my first post. Now you claim that I did something wrong.

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This one is short and sweet regarding the issue of Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) taking a cab to his rooming house following his departure from the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) Building.

Note -- I should also state that the PURPOSE of this series is to show the CLAIMS of the WC are NOT supported by the actual evidence.  This series is NOT about my opinions, beliefs, or anything else regarding my thoughts.  I need to make this clear since several LNers are misleading folks as to my motive for this series!


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The Warren Commission (WC) claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) left the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) and took a bus AND A CAB to get to his rooming house room to retrieve the pistol and jacket.  But as John Mytton showed Captain Will Fritz testified to something else LHO said he did!

Mr. BALL. What did he say?

Mr. FRITZ. He told me he went over and caught a bus and rode the bus to North Beckley near where he lived and went by home and changed clothes and got his pistol and went to the show. I asked him why he took his pistol and he said, "Well, you know about a pistol; I just carried it." Let's see if I asked him anything else right that minute. That is just about it.

IF one believes this testimony, and LNers have to, it shows us LHO said he took the BUS NEAR TO WHERE HE WAS STAYING, and NEVER took a cab as the WC claimed! Thus, their conclusion is sunk again.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2018, 01:12:18 AM »
So you just take Fritz' word for it, huh? Do you have any supporting evidence for the Fritz claim regarding LHO lying?

The irony of course is *you* quoted the part I quoted in my first post. Now you claim that I did something wrong.


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Do you have any supporting evidence for the Fritz claim regarding LHO lying?

You claim to know the evidence but repeatedly your lack of knowledge is exposed.

Mr. STERN - Yes. Did he ever complain that, "We have been over that ground before," or make any such statement?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No; I don't recall anything along that line, but I can recall one subject matter probably in the first interview where he talked about his method of transportation after leaving the Texas Book Depository, having gotten on a bus, and then that subject was taken up again, as I recall, in the second interview, expressed the same answer at that time, and then subsequently to that interview he backed up and said that it wasn't actually true as to how he got home. That he had taken a bus, and due to the traffic jam he had left the bus and got a taxicab, by which means he actually arrived at his residence.


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The irony of course is *you* quoted the part I quoted in my first post. Now you claim that I did something wrong.

How pathetic, you're just a little boy who has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Let me ask you a question, based on Fritz's entire testimony if Fritz was asked how Oswald got home, how would Fritz answer that question, then try and apply that answer to your above cherry pick.

JohnM

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2018, 02:09:30 AM »
You claim to know the evidence but repeatedly your lack of knowledge is exposed.

Mr. STERN - Yes. Did he ever complain that, "We have been over that ground before," or make any such statement?
Mr. BOOKHOUT - No; I don't recall anything along that line, but I can recall one subject matter probably in the first interview where he talked about his method of transportation after leaving the Texas Book Depository, having gotten on a bus, and then that subject was taken up again, as I recall, in the second interview, expressed the same answer at that time, and then subsequently to that interview he backed up and said that it wasn't actually true as to how he got home. That he had taken a bus, and due to the traffic jam he had left the bus and got a taxicab, by which means he actually arrived at his residence.

You just refuse to admit that you falsely claim that this is evidence when it is nothing but a *claim*. The alleged interrogations were not recorded and no stenographer was present, therefore, we have no way of knowing what LHO said or didn't say. He had the right to remain silent.

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How pathetic, you're just a little boy who has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

You have me confused with yourself.

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Let me ask you a question, based on Fritz's entire testimony if Fritz was asked how Oswald got home, how would Fritz answer that question, then try and apply that answer to your above cherry pick.

JohnM

I unlike you don't care what Fritz said. I care about the evidence and that shows that he didn't take the bus driven by McWatters and the cab driven by Whaley.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"
« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2018, 03:11:14 AM »
You just refuse to admit that you falsely claim that this is evidence when it is nothing but a *claim*. The alleged interrogations were not recorded and no stenographer was present, therefore, we have no way of knowing what LHO said or didn't say. He had the right to remain silent.

You have me confused with yourself.

I unlike you don't care what Fritz said. I care about the evidence and that shows that he didn't take the bus driven by McWatters and the cab driven by Whaley.

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You just refuse to admit that you falsely claim that this is evidence when it is nothing but a *claim*. The alleged interrogations were not recorded and no stenographer was present, therefore, we have no way of knowing what LHO said or didn't say. He had the right to remain silent.

Oswald's words during the hours of interrogation were recalled by not only the Dallas Police but have powerful corroboration from a variety of other eyewitnesses, but feel free to believe whatever you want. Oswald knew his rights during hours of interrogation but still squealed like a pig.

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I unlike you don't care what Fritz said.

Well don't quote him then, see how easy that was.

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I care about the evidence and that shows that he didn't take the bus driven by McWatters and the cab driven by Whaley.

So you only care about weak illogical evidence that supports your fairytale. Got it.

JohnM
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