In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?

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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2018, 02:29:44 PM »
The entire foundation of the conspiracy movement relies on the manufacturing and planting of evidence but I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever to support this allegation and when there's no smoke there's no fire.

JohnM

Why would anyone voluntarily confess to a crime?

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2018, 02:36:07 PM »
The entire foundation of the conspiracy movement relies on the manufacturing and planting of evidence but I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever to support this allegation and when there's no smoke there's no fire.

JohnM
Offhand - and not really directly related to your question - we have the so-called "Hunt letter" that Oswald allegedly wrote to either E. Howard Hunt or, more likely, the Texas millionaire H.L. Hunt. The HSCA concluded that it was likely a forgery and a Soviet KGB defector said it was created by the KGB.

And the "Pedro Charles" letters that connected Oswald to the Cuban DGI agent Pedro Charles. Hoover and the FBI concluded that they were a hoax and probably done by an anti-Castro person or persons in an attempt to implicate Castro in the assassination.

The latter incident has been used by some conspiracy people to claim that the CIA - or elements of it - were behind the letters and is evidence of a conspiracy.
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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2018, 02:57:46 PM »
The entire foundation of the conspiracy movement relies on the manufacturing and planting of evidence but I have yet to see any evidence whatsoever to support this allegation and when there's no smoke there's no fire.

JohnM

Shifting the burden again. In 54 years there has been NO supporting evidence put forth for the WC's claims and conclusion. NONE.

It is a crime to tamper with or manufacture evidence so why do you expect someone to have admitted doing this?

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2018, 07:02:25 PM »
Again, do you really expect somebody who was involved with any of this (if there is such a person) to simply come forward?
The usual defense of a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy.
And we know this is alleged Conspiracy is a large conspiracy. You need one to fake and/or alter all the evidence that was alleged to have been faked.
Also, because the CTers don?t give a complete list of all the evidence that was probably fake and all the people who were intimidated. Or a list of the number of people they think would think be needed to fake all this evidence. Because this would make all too apparent their belief in a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2018, 07:20:40 PM »
Offhand - and not really directly related to your question - we have the so-called "Hunt letter" that Oswald allegedly wrote to either E. Howard Hunt or, more likely, the Texas millionaire H.L. Hunt. The HSCA concluded that it was likely a forgery and a Soviet KGB defector said it was created by the KGB.

And the "Pedro Charles" letters that connected Oswald to the Cuban DGI agent Pedro Charles. Hoover and the FBI concluded that they were a hoax and probably done by an anti-Castro person or persons in an attempt to implicate Castro in the assassination.

The latter incident has been used by some conspiracy people to claim that the CIA - or elements of it - were behind the letters and is evidence of a conspiracy.

?The CIA? broadly speaking (in the universe of 1963), includes Assets and Contractors that were in the CIA?s ecosystem but not always directly working for the CIA. Different groups of people loosely working towards a common objective. It?s unlikely that anyone from Langley plotted against the President however, it?s plausible that some individuals who worked with the CIA plotted against JFK.

Today, the CIA is back to many of their old tricks from the 60s. Much of their intelligence collection work is being handled via NGO?s and private security contractors...

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2018, 07:36:50 PM »
Why don't we hear from anyone who knew someone who either planted or manufactured evidence, the amount of connections must be immense but nobody has ever said anything, why?

JohnM


Duh!....   The "investigators" (conspirators)  were not trying to prove that the evidence was manufactured and planted.....Their mission was to " find that the arch villain Lee Harrrrvey Osssswald-- Hiss-- Booo---was the murderer and he had no accomplices nor any motive for the murder."

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2018, 07:55:50 PM »
The usual defense of a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy.
And we know this is alleged Conspiracy is a large conspiracy. You need one to fake and/or alter all the evidence that was alleged to have been faked.
Also, because the CTers don?t give a complete list of all the evidence that was probably fake and all the people who were intimidated. Or a list of the number of people they think would think be needed to fake all this evidence. Because this would make all too apparent their belief in a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy.

Here's an incomplete list of possibly planted evidence:

- The paper sack allegedly used to transport the rifle to TSBD
http://dealeyplazauk.org.uk/pdfArticles/The%20Paper%20bag%20that%20never%20was!.pdf

- The "Magic bullet" discovered at Parkland Hospital
https://history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/EvenMoreMagical.htm

- The Palm Print that the FBI didn't find until after Oswald's death
http://www.garvandwane.com/conspiracy/oswalds_palm_prints.html

- Oswald's wallet with the incriminating Hiddell ID. Was it found at the Tippit murder scene or did he have it when he was arrested?
http://jfkfacts.org/oswalds-wallet-planted-at-the-tippit-crime-scene/

- The broken chain of evidence for the Shells found near the Tippit murder scene
http://jfkfacts.org/jerry-hills-lies-heart-tippit-shooting/

I'm sure there's more but those are a few of the most well known inconsistencies.

The closest anyone has come to admitting to planting (or staging) of evidence is the Wallet mystery. Ofc Croy says an unknown person handed him Oswald's wallet at the Tippit murder scene.

Yes, police officers do sometimes "Stage" crime scenes or tamper with evidence at crime scenes.

They're getting caught more often nowadays due to Camera phones and Body cameras.

Here's one example: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/another-baltimore-police-body-cam-video-shows-officers-plant-drugs-n789396



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