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Author Topic: Rapid Weapon Wiping "chat" vs Were Lifton & Garrison backfired CIA, LHOs?  (Read 317 times)

Offline Tom Scully

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Are forum readers distracted by "wiping the weapon quickly" and "Prayperson" related threads? Is the distraction deliberate, or at least intended to divert, by their authors? Are readers troubled by the implications of Priscilla's testimony, vs her actual background?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95330&search=priscilla_and+letter#relPageId=4&tab=page


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https://www.maryferrell.org/search.html?q=priscilla%20and%20letter&types=D&from=1
101. No Title, pg 47
Found in: HSCA Segregated CIA Collection (staff notes)
Priscilla Johnson McMillan (Cont'd) McMillan stated that she is "absolutely baffled by what 'outfit' means in that letter."
(p. 60; see also pp. 86, 87) She did not know whether she received this letter in June of 1965. She did not know who wrote the letter.

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http://archive.is/esTuB
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https://archive.is/o/esTuB/www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=95330&relPageId=42

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Lifton has stated he found nothing suspicious about Priscilla or Marina. His book on JFK surgical corpse alteration became an NY Times best seller, Garrison's investigation became a prominent film component of American culture.

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http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/T%20Disk/Thornley%20Kerry%20Wendell%20--%20Lifton%20David/Item%2004.pdf
In two fields David Lifton can lay genuine claim to
jfk.hood.edu/.../Thornley%20Kerry%20Wendell%20--%20Lifton%20David/ Item%2004.pdf

….-Kerry Thornley will be fortunate indeed to survive Dave's "friend- ship" ... It is perfectly proper for Lifton and Thornley to cook up an untrue story on John Rene  ..

The evidence I have uncovered, if actually weighed and taken into account, indicates both can reasonably be regarded as CIA sponsored LHOs....Limited Hang Outs...

Note: Much of this has been presented before. LNs and CTs mutually fail to "grok" these irrefutable connections, making no attempt to "work them into" their rather fixed belief systems, and simply proceed with business as usual. However, you cannot make this "stuff" up, it is what it is!

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....This much madness
Is too much sorrow
It's impossible
To make it today    -Neil Young

James Phelan "covered" the Garrison Investigation, especially its origins, for The Saturday Evening Post. His daughter claimed Phelan was a "fledgling reporter" when
he married her mother, Dr. Amalie Strauss Deren, in 1945, but he had worked for presidential advisor, Clark M. Clifford's uncle since 1932. In her book, "False Witness" author Patricia Lambert credits Amalie Phelan, alongside members of Lambert's (nee Billings) own family members.

This was reported in August, 1932. On December 24, 1932, Phelan's name appears with names of all owners and employees of the Alton Evening Telegraph.

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https://hayner.newspaperarchive.com/alton-evening-telegraph/1932-08-02/page-3/
 Tuesday, August 2, 1932 - page 3
…Aug. 2—James Phelan, a student at the University of Illinois, gave a talk before the Wood River Rotary Club on “Journalism'’ Monday noon. Leonard Altman had charge of the program Phelan is the son of Mr. and Mrs. John Phelan of Lorena avenue...

In this OP, I am not even going to cover James Phelan's relations with George White, a much better known area than this "soup"!

On December 31, 1941, James Phelan married Avis Gant of South Dakota. In September, 1945, Phelan married Dr. Amalie Deren. Amalie was apparently the widow of Dr. Solomon Deren, a Ukrainian immigrant with a daughter of almpst the same age as Amalie's.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Deren#Personal_life
Maya Deren (April 29, 1917 – October 13, 1961), born Eleonora Derenkowska (Ukrainian: Елеоно́ра Деренко́вська), was a Ukrainian-born American experimental filmmaker and important promoter of the avant-garde in the 1940s and 1950s. Deren was also a choreographer, dancer, film theorist, poet, lecturer, writer, and photographer. ....
....Early life[edit]
Deren was born in Kiev, Ukraine (then Russian Republic), into a Jewish family, to psychologist Solomon Derenkowsky and Marie Fiedler, who supposedly named her after Italian actress Eleonora Duse.
In 1922, the family fled the USSR because of anti-Semitic pogroms perpetrated by the White Volunteer Army and moved to Syracuse, New York. Her father shortened the family name to "Deren" shortly after they arrived in New York.[2] He became the staff psychiatrist at the State Institute for the Feeble-Minded in Syracuse.
In 1928, she became a naturalized citizen of the United States. Her mother moved to Paris, France to be with her daughter while she attended the League of Nations International School of Geneva in Switzerland from 1930 to 1933.
Deren began college at Syracuse University, where she studied journalism[3] and political science, and also became a highly active socialist leader during the Trotskyist movement.[4] Deren served as National Secretary in the National Student office of the Young People's Socialist League and was a member of the Social Problems Club at Syracuse University through which she met Gregory Bardacke, whom she married at the age of eighteen in June 1935.[4] After his graduation in 1935, she moved to New York City......

The Phelans' crazed daughter, Janet's diatribe (it continues in 2019 and, believe it or not, gets even more "imaginative"...) only a "Fetzerite" could embrace.
She describes assistance from Patricia Lambert.:
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http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/09/116795.php
The Extermination of Dr. Amalie Phelan
by Janet C. Phelan Sunday, Sep. 12, 2004 at 2:21 PM

The second in a series detailing extermination efforts under the Bush administration
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In a 2013, NY Daily News article, there happens to be a December, 1963 photo of Marina and Priscilla seated on either side of Jerome Allen "Jerre" Hasty aka Hastings, described by the FBI as a driver/bodyguard and a friend of Priscilla's CIA first cousin, David C Davenport. All well documented, here.:
Colin, I appreciate your reply. Maybe my nose is simply too sensitive. Author Lambert has been quite close to two people. Lifton and Phelan.
Phelan was taught the newspaper biz by his employer of ten thirteen years, by 1945, an uncle of Clark Clifford.

That uncle, was the brother of William D. McAdams.
McAdams's widowed wife, in 1964, just happened to be married to Marina and Priscilla's bodyguard, furnished by Priscilla's first cousin, CIA officer David C Davenport (according to Sam Ballen, supported by description in Davenport's own obit of a "career in intelligence")…..

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'Marina and Lee' author, 85, one of few that knew both ...
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/author-85-knew-jfk-killer-oswald-article-1.1525293
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |. Nov 21, 2013 | 6:43 PM. Priscilla Johnson McMillan, 85, the author of 'Marina and Lee,' is one of the few people ... widow of Lee Harvey Oswald, with friend Jerre Hastings (center) and Priscilla Johnson McMillan.

The US Census in 1940 documents Hastings as rooming in the Winnetka, IL home of James Phelan's employer's brother, William Douglas McAdams and his wife, Marguerite. In a 1965 lawsuit, JoAnne McAdams, a first cousin of Clark M. Clifford, claimed Hastings was married to her mother, Marguerite McAdams Hasty, and that
Jerome Hasty and his friend, David Davenport had conspired with physicians to involuntarily commit her in a State of New Mexico mental asylum.

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https://jfkfacts.org/listen-in-on-lbj-and-hoover-talk-about-warren-commission/#comment-836963
Tom S.  December 10, 2015 at 11:10 am
Assoc. Prof. McAdams, as a poli-sci expert, do you find any of these “associations” interesting coincidences? Or, is the danger of exposing these details to young minds too great to take the risk of including some of it on your website? Oswald was never afforded voir dire, related to the concept of Warren Commission as judge and jury.

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Counsel to the President: A Memoir – Page 28
https://books.google.com/books?id=P6TWAAAAMAAJ&q=clark+m+clifford+represent+douglas+mcadams&dq=clark+m+clifford+represent+douglas+mcadams&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzw_mk2tHJAhVJVh4KHTRpByoQ6AEIHDAA
Clark M. Clifford – 1992 – ‎Snippet view – ‎More editions
A Memoir Clark M. Clifford … My mother’s youngest brother, William Douglas McAdams, went into the advertising business, moved to New York, and….

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https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=0KJpVp_WM4Kf-AXz76_wBw#q=alton+telegraph+mcadams+phelan

James R. Phelan, 85, Is Dead – Biographer of Howard Hughes
http://www.nytimes.com/…/james-r-phelan-85-is-dead-bi...
The New York Times
Sep 12, 1997 – Born in Alton, Ill., Mr. Phelan began his career at The Alton Evening Telegraph, then moved to the West Coast in 1947 to work for newspapers …

Alton Evening Telegraph from Alton, Illinois · Page 18
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/16331176/
Alton Evening Telegraph (Alton, Illinois), Wednesday, December 24, 1941, Page … S. Cousley John D. McAdams, Jr. Henry McAdams Advertising Department L A. … Brunner Mary Pfeiffenberger James Phelan Circulation Department Richard .

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February 9, 1957
Alton Evening Telegraph from Alton, Illinois · Page 10

Mrs. Georgia McAdams Clifford, widow of Frank A. Clifford, and a sister of the late John D. McAdams, business manager of the Telegraph, died Friday M the home of her son, Clark M. Clifford, at Bethesda, Md. She was 76 years old. She was born in Orterville, daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. William Douglas McAdams. Her fa (her wa« a noted archaeologist. The family came to Alton when she was two years old. She was married in 1MO at Denver to Frank A. Clifford of Alton, for many years an official of Missouri Pacific Railroad. They took up residence in St. Louis, where he died in 1942. Mrs. Clifford w .1 s widely known hs a story-teller, and was the author of several books, children’s stories and stories about Indian legends. She conducted story-telling courses at the Alton YWCA. Surviving is a son, Clark McAdams Clifford. Washington attorney, who for four years was special counsel to President Truman. She also leaves five grandchildren and six great-grandchildren. Also surviving are two sisters, Mrs. J. H. Dickey of Decatur and Mrs. Rupert Neely of Portland. Me. A brother, the lat« 21ark McAdams, was editor of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Funeral services will be at noon Tuesday at Lupton Funeral Home, 7233 Delmar Blvd., University City, Mo. Burial will be in St. Patrick’s Cemetery, Alton.
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St. Louis Post-Dispatch   02 Feb 1941, Sun  •  Page 3
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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Note: Much of this has been presented before. LNs and CTs mutually fail to "grok" these irrefutable connections, making no attempt to "work them into" their rather fixed belief systems, and simply proceed with business as usual. However, you cannot make this "stuff" up, it is what it is!

James Phelan "covered" the Garrison Investigation, especially its origins, for The Saturday Evening Post. His daughter claimed Phelan was a "fledgling reporter" when
he married her mother, Dr. Amalie Strauss Deren, in 1945, but he had worked for presidential advisor, Clark M. Clifford's uncle since 1932. In her book, "False Witness" author Patricia Lambert credits Amalie Phelan, alongside members of Lambert's (nee Billings) own family members.

This was reported in August, 1932. On December 24, 1932, Phelan's name appears with names of all owners and employees of the Alton Evening Telegraph.

In this OP, I am not even going to cover James Phelan's relations with George White, a much better known area than this "soup"!

On December 31, 1941, James Phelan married Avis Gant of South Dakota. In September, 1945, Phelan married Dr. Amalie Deren. Amalie was apparently the widow of Dr. Solomon Deren, a Ukrainian immigrant with a daughter of almpst the same age as Amalie's.

The Phelans' crazed daughter, Janet's diatribe (it continues in 2019 and, believe it or not, gets even more "imaginative"...) only a "Fetzerite" could embrace.
She describes assistance from Patricia Lambert.:


In a 2013, NY Daily News article, there happens to be a December, 1963 photo of Marina and Priscilla seated on either side of Jerome Allen "Jerre" Hasty aka Hastings, described by the FBI as a driver/bodyguard and a friend of Priscilla's CIA first cousin, David C Davenport. All well documented, here.:
The US Census in 1940 documents Hastings as rooming in the Winnetka, IL home of James Phelan's employer's brother, William Douglas McAdams and his wife, Marguerite. In a 1965 lawsuit, JoAnne McAdams, a first cousin of Clark M. Clifford, claimed Hastings was married to her mother, Marguerite McAdams Hasty, and that
Jerome Hasty and his friend, David Davenport had conspired with physicians to involuntarily commit her in a State of New Mexico mental asylum.
https://hayner.newspaperarchive.com/alton-evening-telegraph/1932-08-02/page-3/
St. Louis Post-Dispatch   02 Feb 1941, Sun  •  Page 3


(on the 'To Tell the Truth Show?)........ "Will the REAL John McAdams....... please stand down !!"

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