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Offline Matt Grantham

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Is the mystery of throat and back wounds a draw?
« on: June 01, 2018, 09:06:15 PM »
 If the LN folks could ever just pose the question of what happened to the bullet that the CT claim entered the front in something other the all or nothing nature we generally see, it might lead to a more reasonable response I for one, am of course quite troubled by the question and it is indeed a significant quandary However imo, it is no less of a mystery, or quandary, than all the problems associated with the back and throat wounds being in alignment and only penetrating  soft tissue etc

 I never saw one response to whether the bullet could have gone in JFK's lung perhaps since many here seem more focused on ridicule to address other possibilities

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Is the mystery of throat and back wounds a draw?
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Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Is the mystery of throat and back wounds a draw?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 09:24:57 PM »
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If the LN folks could ever just pose the question of what happened to the bullet that the CT claim entered the front in something other the all or nothing nature we generally see, it might lead to a more reasonable response I for one, am of course quite troubled by the question and it is indeed a significant quandary However imo, it is no less of a mystery, or quandary, than all the problems associated with the back and throat wounds being in alignment and only penetrating  soft tissue etc

 I never saw one response to whether the bullet could have gone in JFK's lung perhaps since many here seem more focused on ridicule to address other possibilities

How many times are you going to post how unhappy you are with the way people exchange communications here? Stop your whining.

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Re: Is the mystery of throat and back wounds a draw?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 09:58:21 PM »
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How many times are you going to post how unhappy you are with the way people exchange communications here? Stop your whining.

 Examples please? I posted one other to anything near that effect which I am aware of and that was aimed at crediting someone for staying out of it It is not even a complaint for Christs sake it is a belief that such strategies wind up with people dealing less with facts and more with insults Do you need the definition of complaining spelled out for you? They usually take the predicate of I hate, I wish, why can't etc But the whiners meme is so much more appealing for those whose purpose is to insult. ridicule etc
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Re: Is the mystery of throat and back wounds a draw?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 10:24:55 PM »
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If the LN folks could ever just pose the question of what happened to the bullet that the CT claim entered the front in something other the all or nothing nature we generally see, it might lead to a more reasonable response I for one, am of course quite troubled by the question and it is indeed a significant quandary However imo, it is no less of a mystery, or quandary, than all the problems associated with the back and throat wounds being in alignment and only penetrating  soft tissue etc

 I never saw one response to whether the bullet could have gone in JFK's lung perhaps since many here seem more focused on ridicule to address other possibilities


Offline Mike Orr

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Re: Is the mystery of throat and back wounds a draw?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2018, 11:36:08 PM »
I feel that the early arrival of JFK at Bethesda in the shipping casket gave those who were going to make some extra wounds to the top of the head more time to make it look like a rear head shot . I think that the bullets were removed from JFK's back and neck shots . The frontal neck shot and the back shot do not match up and never did match up , even after Jerry Ford moved the back shot entrance higher up to try and make the Magic Bullet Theory have a chance to work. As Thomas Robinson said , "That's what the Drs. did ", which was to create an injury to the top of the head that would try to insure a shot from the rear on the back of JFK's head . I might be one of the few who thinks the frontal shot through the windshield might have been the bullet that hits Kennedy in the throat and with the projectile slowing down on it's trip thru the windshield ,might have just made the frontal entry shot to JFK's neck . We have a very good idea that the Tracheostomy done on JFK did not leave a garbled up front neck injury that we see at Bethesda. Thomas Robinson said that during the process of embalmment that there were some very small fine leaks around the face of JFK and that could be very small pieces of glass that went thru the windshields through and through hole and traveling toward the back of the car where JFK was. I think all bullets were removed before the actual autopsy began . A found bullet would mean there was not a chance of a bullet going thru JFK and on into John Connally.

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Re: Is the mystery of throat and back wounds a draw?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2018, 09:22:05 PM »
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Great job pasting that Youtube link Bill!  That's some impressive research.

As for the actual video.  That's 6 minutes of life that nobody will ever get back.  Here we see a guy named Steve Shives use the usual LN tactic of argument by appeal to ridicule, without ever actually addressing any reasons for believing the narrative.

His "5 Stupid things":

1. The endless list of potential suspects

This is the usual strawman that says that every CT believes every conjecture that has ever been brought forth.  As an amusing aside he talks here about preferring the "explanation that requires the fewest assumptions" as if the WC explanation isn't absolutely loaded with assumptions.

2.  The equally endless list of possible motives

As opposed to the WC's lack of any motive.

3. The lack of a coherent counter-narrative

As opposed to the WC's lack of a coherent narrative to begin with.

4. They attract people who aren't normally conspiracy theorists

I'm not sure why he considers this "stupid".  But this may have something to do with this case being nothing like conspiracy theories like the moon landing hoax or Bigfoot, despite some LNers' best attempts to paint them with the same brush to avoid actually talking about the evidence.

5. They combine to form the perfect storm of conspiracy theories

Also not about anything stupid.  I think Steve lost his train of thought halfway though the video.  Here he shows a cute graphic with JFK's picture and the quote "Ask not what the evidence says happened.  Ask what sounds good to you".  Which in fact describes perfectly how the WC came to their conclusion.

Nice try, but a giant fail on multiple levels.

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