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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2018, 10:53:01 PM »
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How many of your medical professionals were seated right beside JFK in the limo?

Not sure what difference that makes.

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
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Offline Steve Barber

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2018, 11:53:34 PM »
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      STEVE - Thanks for posting that Link in an attempt to corroborate your 2 Opinions: (1) Jackie had blood/matter on her face Immediately after Z313, and (2) The Current Zapruder Film Not being Bogus.
                  With respect to (1) Jackie's face blood/matter: with there being No visual evidence of this on the Current Z film immediately following Z313 including the point where she crawls out onto the Limo trunk and then returns to the back seat, let's look at what Jackie says transpired at roughly Z313 and thereafter. "....then he slumped in my lap." "Then Clint Hill, he loved us, he was the first man IN THE CAR.... We ALL LAY DOWN in the car...."  Jackie says nothing as to being spattered at Z313 and actually did not realize any blood was on her face until she was aboard AF1 and preparing for the LBJ swearing in ceremony. Whatever the degree of blood/matter that was on her face, as well as the caked blood on her gloves and her nylons, this most likely occurred during the time period "WE ALL LAY DOWN in the car....".  A side note here: Jackie is claiming that SA Clint Hill got INSIDE the JFK Limo and "LAY DOWN" with her and JFK. I have no doubt this did happen as SA Hill was assigned to protect Jackie. Laying atop her after shots had been fired would be in line with his assignment. The "Lay Down" of SA Hill would also be consistent with the conduct of SA Youngblood when he immediately went from the front seat of the LBJ Car and dove into the back seat forcing LBJ down while Youngblood Laid atop LBJ. These 2 agents acting in this identical manner  in order to protect the person they were assigned to guard would indicate these actions = SS Protocol. Problem is, if SA Clint Hill is LAYING DOWN INSIDE the JFK Limo, (Jackie's account), who is the No Sunglasses Man photographed riding spread eagle atop the JFK Limo trunk at various points prior to reaching Parkland Hospital?
                     With respect to (2) The Current Zapruder Film Not being altered: Jackie's account of the physical actions of JFK and Gov Connally in No Way match what we see on the Current Zapruder Film. With respect to the actions of JFK she says, "Jack, he had His HAND OUT" "Then he slumped in my lap". Where on the Current Zapruder Film at any point after coming out from behind the Stemmons Sign up to Z313 do we see JFK with "His HAND OUT"?. As we all know, the Current Z Film shows JFK clutching his throat/chest with Both Hands. Regarding the actions of Gov Connally, Jackie says, "Connally GRABBING HIS ARMS saying "no no no nonono" with His FIST BEATING". Where as Z313 approaches do we see Gov. Connally "GRABBING HIS ARMS", "FIST BEATING" ???  The movements of JFK and Gov Connally as described by Jackie Kennedy corroborate the Current Z Film NOT depicting reality on 11/22/63.
 
                      Thanks again for providing that Link. Even though you inadvertently have supplied further Proof of the Current Z Film being Bogus, you also have supplied corroboration as to SA Hill having "LAY DOWN" Inside the JFK Limo as it traveled to Parkland Hospital. 54+ years after the JFK Assassination there remains much we do Not know.


 My pleasure, Storing.  Anytime I can further expose the total lunacy of you conspiracy nutters to others, I will continue to post these things .  You need psychiatric help, Storing. 

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2018, 01:03:57 AM »
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 My pleasure, Storing.  Anytime I can further expose the total lunacy of you conspiracy nutters to others, I will continue to post these things .  You need psychiatric help, Storing.

        Which is correct regarding the movements of JFK and Gov Connally? (1) Jackie Kennedy's eyewitness account? (2) The Current Zapruder Film?

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2018, 10:09:54 PM »
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 My pleasure, Storing.  Anytime I can further expose the total lunacy of you conspiracy nutters to others, I will continue to post these things .  You need psychiatric help, Storing.

Steve, don't waste your time. Spend it doing anything else. Picking your teeth. Kicking a dog. But don't waste it on him. It's pointless.

Here's a video that shows even TRAINED OBSERVERS who actually anticipate an event, prepare for it, and watch it with extreme attention STILL GET IT WRONG.  How could a woman under severe trauma do better?


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« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2018, 11:06:46 PM »
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Steve, don't waste your time. Spend it doing anything else. Picking your teeth. Kicking a dog. But don't waste it on him. It's pointless.

Here's a video that shows even TRAINED OBSERVERS who actually anticipate an event, prepare for it, and watch it with extreme attention STILL GET IT WRONG.  How could a woman under severe trauma do better?


           Steve proffered Jackie's remembrances of the 11/22/63 events. Those of you Cherry Pickers that want to Selectively use Jackie to corroborate whatever your point might be and then run away from her other memories which she also made public, should be ashamed and embarrassed.

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2018, 11:10:20 PM »
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Here's a video that shows even TRAINED OBSERVERS who actually anticipate an event, prepare for it, and watch it with extreme attention STILL GET IT WRONG.  How could a woman under severe trauma do better?

That's fine, but then you don't get to use Jackie for the location of the head wound either.

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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2018, 11:13:12 PM »
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That's fine, but then you don't get to use Jackie for the location of the head wound either.

I can live with that.

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« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2018, 11:15:03 PM »
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           Steve proffered Jackie's remembrances of the 11/22/63 events. Those of you Cherry Pickers that want to Selectively use Jackie to corroborate whatever your point might be and then run away from her other memories which she also made public, should be ashamed and embarrassed.

Nobody should rely on eyewitness testimony, especially that which comes from people who suffered mortally frightening trauma. 86 all of it because it may prop up a theory or two but is ultimately unreliable.

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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2018, 12:59:16 AM »
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Nobody should rely on eyewitness testimony, especially that which comes from people who suffered mortally frightening trauma. 86 all of it because it may prop up a theory or two but is ultimately unreliable.

You mean like Helen Markham?

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Re: Back and to the left.....back and to the left
« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2018, 01:48:33 AM »

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