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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #610 on: June 17, 2018, 04:39:58 AM »
wasn't it reported on Tippits police radio by bystanders within 2-3 minutes?


Edit - 4 minutes maybe?



Bowley used Tippit's radio to contact dispatch at about 1:17 pm. So no, not 4 minutes.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #611 on: June 17, 2018, 04:55:38 AM »
Tippit pronounced dead at 1:25pm by Dr. Richard A. Liguori.[7]
-Myers, Dale K. (1998). With Malice: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Murder of Officer J.D. Tippit. Milford, Mich.: Oak Cliff Press. ISBN 0-9662709-7-5.

At approximately 1:11?1:14 p.m.,[17] Tippit was driving slowly eastward on East 10th Street ? about 100 feet (30 m) past the intersection of 10th Street and Patton Avenue ? when he pulled alongside a man who resembled the police description.[21][22] Oswald walked over to Tippit's car and apparently exchanged words with him through an open vent window.[23] Tippit opened his car door and as he walked toward the front of the car, Oswald drew his handgun and fired four shots in rapid succession. One bullet hit Tippit in the chest, one in the stomach, another in his right temple (one bullet hit a button and did not penetrate his skin). Tippit's body was transported from the scene of the shooting by ambulance to Methodist Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 1:25 p.m. by Dr. Richard A. Liguori.[7]
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #612 on: June 17, 2018, 05:10:39 AM »
Tippit pronounced dead at 1:25pm

At approximately 1:11?1:14 p.m.,[17] Tippit was driving slowly eastward on East 10th Street ? about 100 feet (30 m) past the intersection of 10th Street and Patton Avenue ? when he pulled alongside a man who resembled the police description.[21][22] Oswald walked over to Tippit's car and apparently exchanged words with him through an open vent window.[23] Tippit opened his car door and as he walked toward the front of the car, Oswald drew his handgun and fired four shots in rapid succession. One bullet hit Tippit in the chest, one in the stomach, another in his right temple (one bullet hit a button and did not penetrate his skin). Tippit's body was transported from the scene of the shooting by ambulance to Methodist Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 1:25 p.m. by Dr. Richard A. Liguori.[7]

There are two documents that I'm aware of that record the time that Tippit was pronounced DOA as 1:25 pm. They were both authored by FBI agent Robert Lish.





The homicide report made out by C. E. Talbert has Tippit as being pronounced DOA at 1:30 pm.


Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #613 on: June 17, 2018, 05:14:35 AM »
Evidence is not admitted into court without first being authenticated. Establishing a chain of custody is one means of authenticating evidence. Once it has been admitted into court as real evidence, there's very little that a defense team can do about it. Particularly if it's a non-fungible item. If the defense has something concrete to present to the jury once the evidence has been admitted then fine. However, they will not be allowed free reign to spout unsupported claims against the evidence. Not in any properly run court anyway.

Evidence is not admitted into court without first being authenticated.

No... this comment alone shows that you have no idea how the admittance of evidence works..

Establishing a chain of custody is one means of authenticating evidence. Once it has been admitted into court as real evidence, there's very little that a defense team can do about it. 

More BS... in OJ?s trail the gloves were admitted as evidence and we all know how that worked out

If the defense has something concrete to present to the jury once the evidence has been admitted then fine. However, they will not be allowed free reign to spout unsupported claims against the evidence. Not in any properly run court anyway.

Really, so now you want to limit the discretion of the judge.... good luck with that.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #614 on: June 17, 2018, 05:44:31 AM »
There are two documents that I'm aware of that record the time that Tippit was pronounced DOA as 1:25 pm. They were both authored by FBI agent Robert Lish.

Thanks. Now, I just can't wait for Iacoletti to pop up and exclaim 'How does that prove that Oswald shot Tippit'

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« Reply #615 on: June 17, 2018, 05:45:29 AM »
There are two documents that I'm aware of that record the time that Tippit was pronounced DOA as 1:25 pm. They were both authored by FBI agent Robert Lish.





The homicide report made out by C. E. Talbert has Tippit as being pronounced DOA at 1:30 pm.



Each to their own Tim.

For mine I am more than happy that timing from Herbert Blenners actual Dictaphone recording, available since day one 1963( ie putting it and your internet clock up at the same time on your screen and timing each instance and the overall sequence in light of all the other claimed times) proves that all such documented police and ambulance claims are proved wrong and therefore proved as dileberately falsified.

I remember doing that fully last time I was here at this forum and it irrevocably proves that.

Each to their own. :)

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #616 on: June 17, 2018, 05:56:12 AM »
Evidence is not admitted into court without first being authenticated.

No... this comment alone shows that you have no idea how the admittance of evidence works..

"Real evidence must be relevant, material, and authentic before a judge will permit its use in a trial."
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/real-and-demonstrative-evidence.html


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Establishing a chain of custody is one means of authenticating evidence. Once it has been admitted into court as real evidence, there's very little that a defense team can do about it. 

More BS... in OJ?s trail the gloves were admitted as evidence and we all know how that worked out

The OJ trial? Wow Martin. Your desperation slip is showing.


Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #617 on: June 17, 2018, 05:58:50 AM »
Each to their own Tim.

For mine I am more than happy that timing from Herbert Blenners actual Dictaphone recording, available since day one 1963( ie putting it and your internet clock up at the same time on your screen and timing each instance and the overall sequence in light of all the other claimed times) proves that all such documented police and ambulance claims are proved wrong and therefore proved as dileberately falsified.

I remember doing that fully last time I was here at this forum and it irrevocably proves that.

Each to their own. :)

Herbert Blenners actual Dictaphone recording? What are you talking about?

Offline Michael Chambers

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #618 on: June 17, 2018, 07:01:28 AM »
Herbert Blenners actual Dictaphone recording? What are you talking about?

Herbert used to have the actual original Police radio broadcast tape of the sequence.

I wouldn't 100% know if it was fully authentic and unaltered but he seemed to think it was
and at the time I found other instances of it all saying it was the unaltered one from day one 1963.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #619 on: June 17, 2018, 01:13:18 PM »
"Real evidence must be relevant, material, and authentic before a judge will permit its use in a trial."
https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/real-and-demonstrative-evidence.html


The OJ trial? Wow Martin. Your desperation slip is showing.

"Real evidence must be relevant, material, and authentic before a judge will permit its use in a trial."

Poor misguided Tim. It seems you still don?t understand. Evidence presented in court must of course be relevant to the case. A judge is not going to allow something that has nothing to do with the case. However, the admittance of a piece of evidence only means that the judge agrees that the evidence should be presented to the jury, who will then decide the probative value.

The OJ trial? Wow Martin. Your desperation slip is showing.

If anything is showing it is your inability to respond with anything of substance. There is nothing desperate about showing you an actual case which destroys your argument. The point I made was clear. In the OJ trial, the judge admitted the gloves and the jury concluded that they actually did not prove the prosecutors claim. One of the ways the evidence was discredited by the defense was by challenging the chain of custody! And that kinda destroys your argument, but I doubt you will ever see or admit that 

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