Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Bill Brown]

I didn't, Hill did. Keep up.

As if anyone cared.

Not needed with WC sheep like you, I saved a few keystrokes. To clear this up:

Poe and Barnes, under oath, failed to identify shells.

Dhority, under oath, not shown shells.

Doughty, not called, no shells identified under oath.

I didn't, Hill did. Keep up.

Hill claimed AUTO was stamped on the shells?  Really?  Where can I have a look at that?  I can't wait to see what comes out of your mouth next.

Not needed with WC sheep like you, I saved a few keystrokes. To clear this up:

Exactly what I would expect from someone like you who misspoke.

Dhority, under oath, not shown shells.

Doughty, not called, no shells identified under oath.

This is a far cry from your earlier misstatement that Dhority and Doughty "could not identify the shells under oath".

I was right, you were being dishonest.

[Walt Cakebread]

Damn.  Just when I believed we were going to have an intelligent discussion for once.

Hey, I just asked a logical question.....

How do you know that the man that Callaway saw wasn't a citizen that thought he could run down the killer who had ducked into the alley before Callaway saw him?

If you don't know...just be a gentleman and say so.....

[Martin Weidmann]

You mean the ones he put his mark in?

You never misspoke?

Error corrected, live with it.

Doesn't change a thing of what's on record: Poe and Barnes failed miserably under oath.

Doesn't change a thing of what's on record: Poe and Barnes failed miserably under oath.

What makes you think Brown cares about what's on the record?

He'll go with third party hearsay crap over official records whenever it serves his purpose....

[Gary Craig]

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=41&relPageId=58

-snip-

Mr. Hill Right. And Poe showed me a Winston cigarette package that
contained three spent jackets from shells that he said a citizen had pointed
out to him where the suspect had reloaded his gun and dropped these in the
grass, and that the citizen had picked them up and put them in the Winston
package.
  I told Poe to maintain the chain of evidence as small as possible, for him
to retain these at the time, and to be sure and mark them for evidence, and
then turn them over to the crime lab when he got there, or to homicide.

-snip-


Radio message from Tippit murder scene. 11/22/63 app. 1:35 pm
550/2 (Sgt. G.L. Hill)"The shells at the scene indicate that the suspect is armed with an automatic 38, rather than a pistol."

[Gary Craig]

"On the Trail of the Assassins"
by Jim Garrisson.

~snip~

"....As I continued my research, I discovered that beyond the eyewitnesses
there was other evidence gathered and altered by the Dallas homicide
unit showing that Lee Oswald had been framed in the Tippit murder.

For instance, I read transcripts of the messages sent over the Dallas
police radio shortly after the murder. These were recorded automat-
ically on a log. Just minutes after a citizen first reported the murder on
Tippit's radio, Patrolman H.W. Summers in Dallas police unit
number 221 (the designation for the squad car) reported that an
"eyeball witness to the getaway man" had been located. The suspect
was described as having black wavy hair, wearing an Eisenhower jacket
of light color, with dark trousers and a white shirt. He was "apparently
armed with a .32, dark finish, automatic pistol," which he had in his
right hand. Moments later, Sergeant G. Hill reported that "the shell at
the scene indicates that the suspect is armed with an automatic .38
rather than a pistol."

It seemed clear to me from this that the hand gun used to shoot
Tippit was an automatic. But the gun allegedly taken from Lee Oswald
when Dallas police later arrested him at the Texas Theatre was a
revolver. Unless Oswald had stopped and changed guns, which no one
had ever suggested, this fact alone put a severe hole in the govern-
ment's case."

~snip~

[Bill Brown]

I know Bill Brown is big on the honest/dishonest thing ... were these honest mistakes by Belin?

I'm still waiting for your cite for the (mistaken) claim that Hill stated that AUTO was stamped on the shells.  When did Hill say this?

[Jerry Freeman]

Correct, I shouldn't have put Hill in my reply.

Oh..it's just the word game again

   [1:34]   241 (Ptm. J.P. Hollingsworth)    10-4. Whereabouts on the third floor?         
     550/2 (Sgt. G.L. Hill)    550/2.         
     Dispatcher    Go ahead, car 2.         
     550/2    The shells at the scene indicate that the suspect is armed with an automatic 38, rather than a pistol.         
     Dispatcher    10-4.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm

 The amazing thing is the amount of communication listed between 1:34 and 1:35.
See for yourselves! It all looks fudged to me.

Mr. On the Scene Gerald Hill was operating on both channels of the radio...

   550/2 (Sergeant Gerald L. Hill)    A witness reports that he last was seen in the Abundant Life Temple about the 400 block. We are fixing to go in and shake it down.
               Dispatcher    Is that the one that was involved in the shooting of the officer?
               550/2    Yes.
               Dispatcher    They already have him.

How did the dispatcher know 'they already have him'?  Telepathy? There was a lot of that on that day. 
    

550/2 (Sergeant Gerald L. Hill)    No, that wasn't the right one. (1:44 p.m.)

So, how did Hill know that?

[1:46]   Dispatcher    . . . en route to Texas Theater. Have someone cover off the rear of the theater at the fire escape.
    211 (Ptm. R. Hawkins)    211. There's about five squads back here with me now.

Five squads. They had their man.

[John Iacoletti]

However, we run into one MAJOR problem. Pulling the .38 on the cop. In my opinion, not the actions of an innocent man, unless something else is at play here.

There is ZERO evidence that Oswald pulled a gun on a cop in the Texas Theater.