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Online John Tonkovich

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1850 on: February 03, 2020, 09:03:40 PM »
The CIA coups were not authorized by the US government.   The CIA did whatever it damned well wanted.... If the over throw of some banana republic would enable American "business men"  ( aka the mafia) to exploit the peasants and use them to build bigger bank accounts ...then the CIA was there to help.
Operation PBSUCCESS was authorized by President Eisenhower.

Also Operation PBFORTUNE by Truman.

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« Reply #1851 on: February 03, 2020, 10:42:27 PM »
Operation PBSUCCESS was authorized by President Eisenhower.

Also Operation PBFORTUNE by Truman.

In peacetime does the President have the authority to authorize the destruction of a foreign government??

Online John Tonkovich

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« Reply #1852 on: February 04, 2020, 12:51:37 AM »
In peacetime does the President have the authority to authorize the destruction of a foreign government??

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Eisenhower and Truman did.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1853 on: March 05, 2020, 07:29:07 PM »
Has anyone here ever taken a bus from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff? Because I have. And I can tell you that it isn't a fast trip, on a normal day, without the mess and crowds of people gawking at a presidential parade. For Oswald to accomplish all that in such a short time is truly amazing.

But here's another problem. Witnesses claim they saw Oswald running down a hill and get into a car. So did he take the bus or a car? Couldn't have been both. The likeliness of catching the bus on time and making it through downtown, with all the stops in between, make it highly unlikely. And if Oswald took a car, he wouldn't have run into officer Tippet.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #1854 on: March 05, 2020, 08:55:28 PM »
Has anyone here ever taken a bus from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff? Because I have. And I can tell you that it isn't a fast trip, on a normal day, without the mess and crowds of people gawking at a presidential parade. For Oswald to accomplish all that in such a short time is truly amazing.

But here's another problem. Witnesses claim they saw Oswald running down a hill and get into a car. So did he take the bus or a car? Couldn't have been both. The likeliness of catching the bus on time and making it through downtown, with all the stops in between, make it highly unlikely. And if Oswald took a car, he wouldn't have run into officer Tippet.

The officer's name is Tippit.... just saying!

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« Reply #1855 on: March 11, 2020, 12:14:58 AM »
Then it appears to be fairly well-settled.  Apparently Oswald killed Officer Tippet.

Of course. Now if we could just figure out how Oswald got to Oak Cliff. Because witnesses also claim they saw Oswald run down the hill from depository and get into a car. But other witnesses claim they saw Oswald on the bus, including the bus driver who let him off.

Now if Oswald took the bus, there's no way he made it to Oak Cliff in that time. I lived in Dallas. I rode the bus everyday to see my girlfriend in Oak Cliff. You can't get from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff in that amount of time, even on a day that isn't crowded with people watching a presidential motorcade. It took some people 3 hours just to get through downtown that day.  And buses have to make other stops for people getting on and off. A day such as that no doubt had lots of people riding the bus.

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« Reply #1856 on: March 11, 2020, 06:38:39 AM »
Of course. Now if we could just figure out how Oswald got to Oak Cliff. Because witnesses also claim they saw Oswald run down the hill from depository and get into a car. But other witnesses claim they saw Oswald on the bus, including the bus driver who let him off.

Now if Oswald took the bus, there's no way he made it to Oak Cliff in that time. I lived in Dallas. I rode the bus everyday to see my girlfriend in Oak Cliff. You can't get from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff in that amount of time, even on a day that isn't crowded with people watching a presidential motorcade. It took some people 3 hours just to get through downtown that day.  And buses have to make other stops for people getting on and off. A day such as that no doubt had lots of people riding the bus.


Because witnesses also claim they saw Oswald run down the hill from depository and get into a car.

Not 100% accurate. Some witnesses did indeed see a man, who looked like Oswald, run downhill and get into a car, but it was never established that it was indeed Oswald they saw.

Now if Oswald took the bus, there's no way he made it to Oak Cliff in that time

You seem to be making a moot point as the official narrative has Oswald getting off the bus and taking a taxi to get to Oak Cliff.

You can't get from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff in that amount of time, even on a day that isn't crowded with people watching a presidential motorcade.

Did you make those trips in the 60's? Could it be that an increase in traffic and changes to the road system or bus schedules make for a longer trip now than back then?

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« Reply #1857 on: March 11, 2020, 05:22:12 PM »
Of course. Now if we could just figure out how Oswald got to Oak Cliff. Because witnesses also claim they saw Oswald run down the hill from depository and get into a car. But other witnesses claim they saw Oswald on the bus, including the bus driver who let him off.

Now if Oswald took the bus, there's no way he made it to Oak Cliff in that time. I lived in Dallas. I rode the bus everyday to see my girlfriend in Oak Cliff. You can't get from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff in that amount of time, even on a day that isn't crowded with people watching a presidential motorcade. It took some people 3 hours just to get through downtown that day.  And buses have to make other stops for people getting on and off. A day such as that no doubt had lots of people riding the bus.

 Now if we could just figure out how Oswald got to Oak Cliff.

The solution to that question may be beyond your abilities......  But According to the men who were present at the interrogation of Lee Oswald....Lee said that he had reached the rooming house by a CITY  CAB   ( NOT Whaley's) and his fare was 85 cents.... ( Whaley said his passenger who was wearing the blue workman's  clothing, was 95 cents) 
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1858 on: March 11, 2020, 06:46:47 PM »
Of course. Now if we could just figure out how Oswald got to Oak Cliff. Because witnesses also claim they saw Oswald run down the hill from depository and get into a car. But other witnesses claim they saw Oswald on the bus, including the bus driver who let him off.

Now if Oswald took the bus, there's no way he made it to Oak Cliff in that time. I lived in Dallas. I rode the bus everyday to see my girlfriend in Oak Cliff. You can't get from downtown Dallas to Oak Cliff in that amount of time, even on a day that isn't crowded with people watching a presidential motorcade. It took some people 3 hours just to get through downtown that day.  And buses have to make other stops for people getting on and off. A day such as that no doubt had lots of people riding the bus.

If I may jump forward to the timing controversy regarding Oswald's movement between his lodgings and @Tippit, I have high confidence that Oswald might well have employed the military 'Double Time March' (as against the CT stubborn notion that seems to suggest that no-one-saw-him-so-he-must-have-been-walking)

Military Double Time March

And as at least one 'Johnny-on-the-spot' attendee (that would be The Divine Miss 'M') stated, Oswald left the scene at a trot, a human-locomotion technique closely resembling the military double time movement.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1859 on: March 11, 2020, 07:05:39 PM »
If I may jump forward to the timing controversy regarding Oswald's movement between his lodging and @Tippit, I have high confidence that Oswald might well have employed the military 'Double Time March' (as against the CT stubborn notion that seems to suggest that no-one-saw-him-so-he-must-have-been-walking)

Military Double Time March

If I may jump forward to the timing controversy regarding Oswald's movement between his lodging and @Tippit, I have high confidence that Oswald might well have employed the military 'Double Time March'

Mrs Roberts saw Lee standing on the sidewalk in front of the rooming house at 1:04 pm.....     JD Tippit was tailing a man who was walking on the sidewalk along E. 10th at 1:04 pm....  A couple of minutes later at 1:06 pm, Mrs Markham saw the man who Tippit had been tailing,  shoot JD Tippit.   

There is one mile between the rooming house and 10th and Patton.  The fastest man on earth, Roger Bannister, could not have " double timed " that one mile in just two minutes.    Bannister had recently broken the time for the one mile run....Running as fast as he could ...It took him just under FOUR minutes to run one mile...

 

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